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Saints charged with spying 09:48 - May 9 with 115597 viewsKensalT

Southampton haven't yet denied these allegations!

For anyone who doesn't know Boro caught someone with some very sophisticated cameras and recording equipment spying on one of their training sessions.

Apparently Boro are looking into the possibility that Saints have done this to other teams this season.

Nightmare timing for the EFL. I can't see any way for them to fudge this

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Saints charged with spying on 14:45 - May 20 with 2490 viewsNorthernr

Saints charged with spying on 14:43 - May 20 by Dorse

Fck it. Re-run the season.


But let's get rid of Sheff Wed who were a bit of a joke, Oxford who were a bit sht, and Leicester because they were a total shambles, and bring in some new faces like Lincoln and Stockport, maybe let Cardiff back in so we can win at theirs again.

And Coventry and Ipswich were a bit good so fck them off and add some more stodgy sht like Wolves and Burnley. West Ham could be funny too.
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Saints charged with spying on 14:49 - May 20 with 2435 viewsdaveB

The statement from the Southampton CEO sums it all up, is all about money and how much money they will lose woe is us as if getting to the final means they automatically win.

They are a disgrace, cheated all through second half of the season, if they get away with it in the short term this will all come out in the summer and be far worse for them.

All this to finish bottom next season
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Saints charged with spying on 14:49 - May 20 with 2424 viewsLblock

Saints charged with spying on 14:36 - May 20 by LimehouseR

It would be totally insane.

They've now just told Middlesbrough that they are playing in what would be the biggest game of most if not all of their players. And for the club the biggest financial windfall and most importantly the fans, the biggest match and day out they will have for years, even decades.

They can't then suddenly snatch that back.

Here's a conspiracy theory. Tottenham finish 22nd but don't get relegated because they can't solve this playoff issue. The Premier League would love that.


Oooooooooooooooofffpphhhhhhhh!

I love a conspiracy thoery me and you've just chucked a proper grassy knoll into the mix there.

I like it (sort of)

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Saints charged with spying on 14:50 - May 20 with 2415 viewspatrickqpr

Saints charged with spying on 14:36 - May 20 by LimehouseR

It would be totally insane.

They've now just told Middlesbrough that they are playing in what would be the biggest game of most if not all of their players. And for the club the biggest financial windfall and most importantly the fans, the biggest match and day out they will have for years, even decades.

They can't then suddenly snatch that back.

Here's a conspiracy theory. Tottenham finish 22nd but don't get relegated because they can't solve this playoff issue. The Premier League would love that.


I know we sll want Spurs to be relegated but I can't see them finishing 22nd in a 20 team league
[Post edited 20 May 14:51]
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Saints charged with spying on 14:51 - May 20 with 2409 viewsNorthernr

Saints charged with spying on 14:49 - May 20 by daveB

The statement from the Southampton CEO sums it all up, is all about money and how much money they will lose woe is us as if getting to the final means they automatically win.

They are a disgrace, cheated all through second half of the season, if they get away with it in the short term this will all come out in the summer and be far worse for them.

All this to finish bottom next season


Southampton CEO talking about a £200m penalty and comparing it to other fines/punishments. The financial penalty as it stands is £0 chum, unless you won the final while I wasn't looking.
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Saints charged with spying on 15:02 - May 20 with 2313 viewsDorse

Saints charged with spying on 14:45 - May 20 by Northernr

But let's get rid of Sheff Wed who were a bit of a joke, Oxford who were a bit sht, and Leicester because they were a total shambles, and bring in some new faces like Lincoln and Stockport, maybe let Cardiff back in so we can win at theirs again.

And Coventry and Ipswich were a bit good so fck them off and add some more stodgy sht like Wolves and Burnley. West Ham could be funny too.


These seem eminently reasonable suggestions. No notes.

'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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Saints charged with spying on 15:03 - May 20 with 2305 viewsDorse

Saints charged with spying on 14:44 - May 20 by JohnBurkeQPR

My biggest surprise is QPR haven't somehow ended up involved yet.


Give it time.

'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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Saints charged with spying on 15:05 - May 20 with 2276 viewsJamesB1979

Saints charged with spying on 14:44 - May 20 by JohnBurkeQPR

My biggest surprise is QPR haven't somehow ended up involved yet.


We admitted to it but they started laughing
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Saints charged with spying on 15:06 - May 20 with 2277 viewsKensalT

Saints charged with spying on 14:51 - May 20 by Northernr

Southampton CEO talking about a £200m penalty and comparing it to other fines/punishments. The financial penalty as it stands is £0 chum, unless you won the final while I wasn't looking.


Exactly right.

They've won nothing yet and have admitted cheating throughout the season.

From what I have been reading Saints are appealing the punishment and believe they should have received something on a par with what Leeds got for spying on Derby.

The rules have been changed since then.

Leeds was a one-off, which this clearly isn't.

We've also had the stiff penalties handed down to Canada Women for cheating in the Olympics. Whilst that isn't binding here it was a decision by FIFA (who govern the world game) and IIRC that decision was upheld by CAS.

I think Saints are clutching at straws, but I suppose we would too.

Looking at the online comments even some of Saints own fans have become disillusioned with how the club has behaved and wants them to take the punishment, clean house, and start repairing the damage.

With their squad starting next season with a four point penalty is not much of a handicap.
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Saints charged with spying on 15:06 - May 20 with 2273 viewsKonk

Saints charged with spying on 14:51 - May 20 by Northernr

Southampton CEO talking about a £200m penalty and comparing it to other fines/punishments. The financial penalty as it stands is £0 chum, unless you won the final while I wasn't looking.


If that's how it works then Wrexham can presumably sue Saints for the £200m that they have been cheated out of due to Saints' cheating?

Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts

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Saints charged with spying on 15:07 - May 20 with 2259 viewsJamesB1979

Saints charged with spying on 14:40 - May 20 by Northernr

Hull are saying they shouldn't have to play Boro now.

Going well.


I know Sky and Boro won’t like it but I think I agree. Boro still lost the game. Just give promotion to Hull.
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Saints charged with spying on 15:07 - May 20 with 2260 viewsTheChef

Saints charged with spying on 15:06 - May 20 by Konk

If that's how it works then Wrexham can presumably sue Saints for the £200m that they have been cheated out of due to Saints' cheating?


Haven't all the Championship clubs been cheated out of £200 million?

Poll: How old is everyone on here?

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Saints charged with spying on 15:09 - May 20 with 2248 viewskensalriser

Saints charged with spying on 12:53 - May 20 by ThGrimRanger

really surprised that southampton didn't persuade the intern involved to claim he was acting alone - it's not like he's breaking any criminal law and all the punishment dished out to the club would have been avoided


They couldn't because there is evidence he didn't act alone, which is probably why they admitted it.

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Saints charged with spying on 15:19 - May 20 with 2197 viewsdaveB

Saints charged with spying on 15:06 - May 20 by Konk

If that's how it works then Wrexham can presumably sue Saints for the £200m that they have been cheated out of due to Saints' cheating?


QPR have a case, we had a chance of the playoffs till they beat us 5-0 then the wheels came off. We'd have made it without that game honest guv
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Saints charged with spying on 15:27 - May 20 with 2147 viewsOrthodox_Hoop

Saints charged with spying on 14:44 - May 20 by JohnBurkeQPR

My biggest surprise is QPR haven't somehow ended up involved yet.


Boro's lawyer is a QPR fan methinks?
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Saints charged with spying on 15:33 - May 20 with 2088 viewsthemodfather

i did not expect saints to admit jack but to add more offences? and admit it? did they throw this in or did EFL know?
otherwise sod em the cheats, repeated cheats they have thrown the championship into chaos and should be relegated to the Eastleigh sunday pub league ( they are bag snatchers too!!)
i hope oxford and wrexham chuck in appeals , wba for their points and Leicester, all of em
saints HAVE BROUGHT THE GAME AND CHAMPIONSHIP INTO DISREPUTE. why should they get a chance for promotion? and earn 100s of millions of quid?
wrexham want p/offs all replayed with them in it! i WANT THE WHOLE LEAGUE REPLAYED! we know we wuz robbed like guv innit!
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Saints charged with spying on 15:54 - May 20 with 1965 viewsHarbour

Saints charged with spying on 14:51 - May 20 by Northernr

Southampton CEO talking about a £200m penalty and comparing it to other fines/punishments. The financial penalty as it stands is £0 chum, unless you won the final while I wasn't looking.


Unless I am mistaken are we not still paying the £42m fine we got in 2018…so no missing the Playoff final and docked 4 points is not so big a deal. You cheated you got found out so take your punishment…see in the championship next season .
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Saints charged with spying on 16:04 - May 20 with 1899 viewsLimehouseR

Saints charged with spying on 14:50 - May 20 by patrickqpr

I know we sll want Spurs to be relegated but I can't see them finishing 22nd in a 20 team league
[Post edited 20 May 14:51]


Oops, that's my football league bias there!

Of course, yes, 18th!
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Saints charged with spying on 16:06 - May 20 with 1877 viewsdmm

Saints charged with spying on 15:54 - May 20 by Harbour

Unless I am mistaken are we not still paying the £42m fine we got in 2018…so no missing the Playoff final and docked 4 points is not so big a deal. You cheated you got found out so take your punishment…see in the championship next season .


The FFP fine will be paid off in 2017 but it's the owners who have paid it and not the club.
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Saints charged with spying on 16:13 - May 20 with 1827 viewsnick_hammersmith

Saints charged with spying on 15:07 - May 20 by TheChef

Haven't all the Championship clubs been cheated out of £200 million?


Did someone say class action?
Get Nick DeMarco back in, take the £200m and divide it by all the Champ clubs, that'll be nice
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Saints charged with spying on 16:23 - May 20 with 1766 viewsloftus77

Saints charged with spying on 15:05 - May 20 by JamesB1979

We admitted to it but they started laughing


absolutely. Come on, we've all had a drink....
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Saints charged with spying on 16:32 - May 20 with 1711 viewsLanhoop

Is it coincidence that if Boro beat Hull then none of the teams they admitted to spying on will actually have to play them in the championship next season?
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Saints charged with spying on 16:36 - May 20 with 1679 viewsNorthernr

Saints charged with spying on 16:13 - May 20 by nick_hammersmith

Did someone say class action?
Get Nick DeMarco back in, take the £200m and divide it by all the Champ clubs, that'll be nice


Given his win percentage, have we not thought of making him the manager?
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Saints charged with spying on 16:58 - May 20 with 1573 viewsfrancisbowles

It's a bit hard to believe they spied on Oxford in December and didn't spy again until Ipswich in April, some four months later.
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Saints charged with spying on 17:02 - May 20 with 1553 viewsRanger_1969

Saints charged with spying on 16:58 - May 20 by francisbowles

It's a bit hard to believe they spied on Oxford in December and didn't spy again until Ipswich in April, some four months later.


My thoughts exactly - they are insulting our intelligence.
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