| Injuries 20:14 - Oct 10 with 13670 views | monners1969 |
2 questions
How many fit players do we have?
Do I need to bring my boots and deep heat on Wednesday ? |  | | |  |
| Injuries on 21:48 - Oct 14 with 1866 views | Match82 |
| Injuries on 18:38 - Oct 14 by FDC |
Is there evidence of similar issues globally and in other sports? Genuine question I've no idea |
I don't know how you could possibly pull that apart as a data point from general trends in fitness/play style/whatever over the last 6 years, there's not really a control group you could find. |  | | |
| Injuries on 10:54 - Oct 15 with 1108 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Injuries on 17:17 - Oct 14 by queensparker |
I don’t want to derail this thread into conspiracy theories and paranoia, so I apologise for what I’m about to say, but I have several family members in medicine and it’s a known after-effect of COVID that it can potentially cause issues to muscles / joints / ligaments / recovery.
NOT the vaccine, Covid the actual disease.
Given I imagine everyone in the world including sportsmen has now had the infection at some point, I wonder if this might be a factor. |
Never had Covid here - Luck or otherwise
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| Injuries on 11:05 - Oct 15 with 1059 views | nix |
| Injuries on 14:27 - Oct 14 by Stainrod |
Fair enough mate and thank you for clarifying.
And not at all, me thinks (for what it is worth) you are a good poster….
Sounds like we are not a million miles apart in that case.
Agree subs shouldn’t be entirely pre-determined unless someone coming back from injury; you are right there needs to be a bit of responding to circumstances in the match.
I suppose all I would say is that we don’t know for sure that these are not Stephan’s calls. Or he might be happy to take the medical advice. He also has access to the in-play data so he might be being told that player x is running less or slower or whatever. Hopefully those in the dugout are working as unified team just like the players on the pitch. |
I think he absolutely agrees with the approach. I’m sure he actually said it himself at some point that he recognises the need to listen to advice.
At one point yesterday you could see Smyth just missing a couple of balls where he’d been completely on it before and he was straight off. So yes I do think they’re monitoring tiredness.
I disagree about predetermined removal of players though. Some players with their playing style will be more likely to get injured - so players that make a lot of sprints. Also it takes into account how many minutes they’ve played recently, and the amount of work they got through. I’m sure it’s emerged from the report they commissioned about injuries last season so if they’re following the recommendations from that then it makes sense to me. Burrell and Madsen last season almost certainly got injured from being overplayed and we don’t want that this season. Unfortunately we were not able to influence the Burrell one because of the frigging international break. |  | | |
| Injuries on 11:29 - Oct 15 with 984 views | TheChef |
| Injuries on 17:17 - Oct 14 by queensparker |
I don’t want to derail this thread into conspiracy theories and paranoia, so I apologise for what I’m about to say, but I have several family members in medicine and it’s a known after-effect of COVID that it can potentially cause issues to muscles / joints / ligaments / recovery.
NOT the vaccine, Covid the actual disease.
Given I imagine everyone in the world including sportsmen has now had the infection at some point, I wonder if this might be a factor. |
Well who knows?
But the main difference brought in by Covid is the five subs rule - meaning that physical intensity goes on for longer over the 90 minutes (these days even more e.g. 100 minutes last night!) and players are working at their limit for longer. Hence all the soft tissue injuries and them breaking down more often. |  |
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| Injuries on 13:23 - Oct 15 with 794 views | ManinBlack |
When you have a three game week, it really doesn't help when they add on 10 minutes stoppage time in a game that was done and dusted. Derby just wanted to get off the pitch and go home and we were just seeing out the game a man down. I understand the time being added on to the full extent but in the circumstances last night the additional time was not going to change the outcome. I don't think either side would complain if only 4 minutes added on as it was 4-0 not 1-0. The longer you keep tired players out there the more likely they succumb to injury. We nearly played a full half of extra time. |  | | |
| Injuries on 13:48 - Oct 15 with 727 views | Match82 |
| Injuries on 10:54 - Oct 15 by Superhoops2808 |
Never had Covid here - Luck or otherwise
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Sounds like you have a terrific career ahead of you as a premier league footballer! | | | |
| Injuries on 13:57 - Oct 15 with 685 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Injuries on 13:48 - Oct 15 by Match82 |
Sounds like you have a terrific career ahead of you as a premier league footballer! |
Knowing my luck Man City would sign me  | | | |
| Injuries on 20:07 - Oct 15 with 463 views | Northernr |
Mbengue comes on last night with the left knee heavily strapped and lasts ten minutes, hoes down with nobody around him. Not good. |  | | |
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| Injuries on 20:49 - Oct 15 with 372 views | JamesB1979 |
| Injuries on 20:07 - Oct 15 by Northernr |
Mbengue comes on last night with the left knee heavily strapped and lasts ten minutes, hoes down with nobody around him. Not good. |
But what can the club do about that? I get last couple of seasons it’s been bad but Kemper got injured in tackle against Portsmouth, Cirkin suspended, we need to manage minutes of Kemper. Maybe we could have brought Morrison on or JCS, and Edwards to right back. Mbengue gets injured as foot gets caught in turf. Just not sure we can blame club for that. |  | | |
| Injuries on 21:44 - Oct 15 with 270 views | StreathamRanger |
| Injuries on 20:49 - Oct 15 by JamesB1979 |
But what can the club do about that? I get last couple of seasons it’s been bad but Kemper got injured in tackle against Portsmouth, Cirkin suspended, we need to manage minutes of Kemper. Maybe we could have brought Morrison on or JCS, and Edwards to right back. Mbengue gets injured as foot gets caught in turf. Just not sure we can blame club for that. |
I tend to agree with this. Clearly his studs got caught in the turf which lead to the injury. For me that's unlucky rather than a problem with the fitness and conditioning team.
On the strapping question, loads of players wear strapping on all sorts of parts of their bodies. I'm sure I read somewhere that there's no scientific evidence that it makes any difference. More of a placebo effect. Look how many players wear wrist tape. They're not all carrying wrist or hand injuries, they just like the way it feels or are following a fashion.
Obviously a bad injury. Hope it's something he can come back from as he's the right sort and he's clearly very well liked by his team mates. Get well soon Amadou. | | | |
| Injuries on 21:47 - Oct 15 with 244 views | connell10 |
| Injuries on 20:49 - Oct 15 by JamesB1979 |
But what can the club do about that? I get last couple of seasons it’s been bad but Kemper got injured in tackle against Portsmouth, Cirkin suspended, we need to manage minutes of Kemper. Maybe we could have brought Morrison on or JCS, and Edwards to right back. Mbengue gets injured as foot gets caught in turf. Just not sure we can blame club for that. |
Dont bring him on . |  |
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| Injuries on 21:54 - Oct 15 with 203 views | JamesB1979 |
| Injuries on 21:47 - Oct 15 by connell10 |
Dont bring him on . |
Well yeah but Kemper needed to go off. Hindsight and all that but maybe give Morrison some time | | | |
| Injuries on 22:06 - Oct 15 with 152 views | numptydumpty |
| Injuries on 21:54 - Oct 15 by JamesB1979 |
Well yeah but Kemper needed to go off. Hindsight and all that but maybe give Morrison some time |
Good IDEA - maybe Morrison will get his chance now - Ingenious PLAN by the club. |  |
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