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Russell Brand is guilty 15:54 - Nov 5 with 2362 viewsE17hoop

Good, I hope he really suffers in clinky wink.

It's always noisiest at the shallow end
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Russell Brand is guilty on 16:08 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsBluce_Ree

Been told to expect some proper time. Good.

He'll no doubt try to spin this as some sort of "they're trying to silence me" nonsense but he's not been relevant to anything in years.

Between this and America it feels like the world is healing a little.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 16:17 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsJuzzie

Not on all counts but enough to go inside. Good. Never liked him. Not even back in the day. Felt there was something odd about him (almost as though his over exuberant self-proclaiming sexual conquests was a case of hiding in plain sight) and not surprised when all this came out.


I was on a rape trial many, many years ago and they are incredibly difficult to get a guilty verdict from so there must have been some very substantial details/evidence in this case.

In the case of the one I was on both sides account of the situation were equally plausible. After a week of each side putting their case across, witness statements etc it boiled down to one word against the other as to whether it was consensual or not.
We were told that in order to give a guilty verdict it had to be proved with evidence that it was rape. There was no evidence at all to be able to do this so a not-guilty verdict was given. Not because he didn't do it, but because it couldn't be proven beyond all doubt he did.
It was an incredibly difficult situation as if you get it wrong you could be sending someone down for 8 years who is innocent or letting someone free who is guilty.
[Post edited 5 Nov 16:47]
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Russell Brand is guilty on 17:07 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsPaddyhoops

There are lots of other cases opening up against him now.
Nasty piece of work but he’s found god so I’m sure he’ll be fine.
Sean Lock did a little piece about him on 8/10 cats a few years ago .
He knew what he was back then .
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Russell Brand is guilty on 19:33 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsWokingR

Not the biggest shock of the week is it
How can you base your defence on lining up a number of women who confirmed that he wasn’t like that because he hadn’t raped them.
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Russell Brand is guilty on 19:38 - Nov 5 with 0 viewscolinallcars

Russell Brand is guilty on 17:07 - Nov 5 by Paddyhoops

There are lots of other cases opening up against him now.
Nasty piece of work but he’s found god so I’m sure he’ll be fine.
Sean Lock did a little piece about him on 8/10 cats a few years ago .
He knew what he was back then .


He may say he's found God but doubt God has found him.
Obviously I don't know the extent of it, but anyone who desports himself with all black clothing, black beard, tache, long black hair and never seen without dark glasses, is a bit wonky to me.
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Russell Brand is guilty on 19:40 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsSonic_Hoop

Russell Brand is guilty on 19:38 - Nov 5 by colinallcars

He may say he's found God but doubt God has found him.
Obviously I don't know the extent of it, but anyone who desports himself with all black clothing, black beard, tache, long black hair and never seen without dark glasses, is a bit wonky to me.


Thanks a lot.
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Russell Brand is guilty on 19:43 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsMick_S

Russell Brand is guilty on 19:40 - Nov 5 by Sonic_Hoop

Thanks a lot.


😂

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Russell Brand is guilty on 21:21 - Nov 5 with 0 viewscolinallcars

The judge said to Brand “have you anything to say before I pass sentence ?”
Brand muttered “f*ck all”
The judge cupped his hand to his ear and said to Brand's brief “did your client say something ?”
The brief said “my client said f*ck all m'lud”
The judge replied “ oh, I thought he said something”
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Russell Brand is guilty on 22:58 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsBoston

Russell Brand is guilty on 19:38 - Nov 5 by colinallcars

He may say he's found God but doubt God has found him.
Obviously I don't know the extent of it, but anyone who desports himself with all black clothing, black beard, tache, long black hair and never seen without dark glasses, is a bit wonky to me.


Roy Orbison!

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Russell Brand is guilty on 23:17 - Nov 5 with 0 viewscolinallcars

Russell Brand is guilty on 22:58 - Nov 5 by Boston

Roy Orbison!


The Swiss Family Orbison…
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Russell Brand is guilty on 23:50 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsBluce_Ree

Blokes who defend this guy because he shares a religion with them are the male equivalent of women who marry men who are in prison for life.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 23:54 - Nov 5 with 0 viewsCLAREMAN1995

Russell Brand is guilty on 16:17 - Nov 5 by Juzzie

Not on all counts but enough to go inside. Good. Never liked him. Not even back in the day. Felt there was something odd about him (almost as though his over exuberant self-proclaiming sexual conquests was a case of hiding in plain sight) and not surprised when all this came out.


I was on a rape trial many, many years ago and they are incredibly difficult to get a guilty verdict from so there must have been some very substantial details/evidence in this case.

In the case of the one I was on both sides account of the situation were equally plausible. After a week of each side putting their case across, witness statements etc it boiled down to one word against the other as to whether it was consensual or not.
We were told that in order to give a guilty verdict it had to be proved with evidence that it was rape. There was no evidence at all to be able to do this so a not-guilty verdict was given. Not because he didn't do it, but because it couldn't be proven beyond all doubt he did.
It was an incredibly difficult situation as if you get it wrong you could be sending someone down for 8 years who is innocent or letting someone free who is guilty.
[Post edited 5 Nov 16:47]


Hate to even ask this question but if these crimes happened between 2004 and 2009 is it their words against his or is there some other evidence preserved like clothing etc.
If he was 30 years old dating a 16 year old who he abused was that not already statuory r*pe or is the laws different in the UK.
I watched the Jimmy Saville documentary a few years and it made me physically sick I dont want to research this any more .
I see he is married to Bernard Gallagher's daughter hopefully they have no kids
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Russell Brand is guilty on 00:12 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsBoston

Russell Brand is guilty on 23:54 - Nov 5 by CLAREMAN1995

Hate to even ask this question but if these crimes happened between 2004 and 2009 is it their words against his or is there some other evidence preserved like clothing etc.
If he was 30 years old dating a 16 year old who he abused was that not already statuory r*pe or is the laws different in the UK.
I watched the Jimmy Saville documentary a few years and it made me physically sick I dont want to research this any more .
I see he is married to Bernard Gallagher's daughter hopefully they have no kids


16, is not statutory rape in the UK.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 00:12 - Nov 6 with 0 viewskensalriser

Russell Brand is guilty on 23:54 - Nov 5 by CLAREMAN1995

Hate to even ask this question but if these crimes happened between 2004 and 2009 is it their words against his or is there some other evidence preserved like clothing etc.
If he was 30 years old dating a 16 year old who he abused was that not already statuory r*pe or is the laws different in the UK.
I watched the Jimmy Saville documentary a few years and it made me physically sick I dont want to research this any more .
I see he is married to Bernard Gallagher's daughter hopefully they have no kids


The jury felt he was guilty on the counts he was convicted of, so yes there was evidence. When there are several complainants who don't know each other and have very similar testimony it's hard to refute.

Age of consent is 16 in the UK.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 00:48 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsnumptydumpty

I never thought much of him as a person.

Used to work with a woman 15 years ago, who willingly admitted she would let him do anything and everything to her. I never saw what women used to see in him and a man reported to have had nearly one thousand women sleep with him, clearly she was not alone in her thinking. I couldnt see myself what so many women back at that time liked about him. Found it very strange and to me he came across as very gay - probably an act though.

Clearly if he slept with such a vast number of women, many were possibly not exactly consensual, by weight of numbers.

A horrible man, no doubt anyhow, totally buying his own self image but the power of celebrity added to it.

Someone saying its very hard to pass on a conviction in these cases. Well a friend mine was on a jury of partner rape but since the complaint they were back together and married. The woman wanted the case dropped but it was already in process and my friend said by letter of the law they had to find him guilty.

Whatever, rape is a hideous crime, and Russell Brand will certainly need his "God" supporting him, as he will face time, although all criminals are being let out ridiculously early now.

Feel sad for his wife and kids. The reporters shouting at her that her husband is a rapist whilst having to go back to bringing up her kids knowing one day they will read and understand about their dad.

No one is a winner in these cases.

To be honest why do we never hear about all the good deeds going on in this world. There are plenty of brilliant things happening daily all around the world. 99% of people are decent and law abiding but we have to have this cr*p sensationalised day after day.

Everyone now is their own personal paperazzi. The world's gone mad and mainstream media has now expanded into the total jungle of social media thats out of control and unmanageable to bring back into any kind of decency.

i always said i wouldn"t be like previous generations, who said it waa better in my day, but it really was.....
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"Walking in a Mackie Wonderland"
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Russell Brand is guilty on 06:10 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsSpaceman_P

I met Brand once. Had a female friend who adored him but after we met him even she turned against him

He was doing a small intimate talk thing in East London, we went as it was something to do.

Anyway, it started and I remember 1 girl arrived late and he went absolutely mental at the girl and told her to get out... it created a very unsettling vibe in the place as clearly everyone felt bad for the girl who obviously was a brand fan.

At the end he did a sort of meet and greet and I told my friend that I want to take the pee out of him to his face... she was horrified but knows how im like.

So basically I met him and did reverse psycho babble.

"Russell you really need to be one with your Uranus third eye"

Oh yeah what's that? " its a meditation technique using planetary alignments" this jokey stuff continued for a couple minutes... I also suggested he needed a gong for addiction recovery.

Then I remember i said Russell you're a spokesman of our times.

He looked very pleased with that like he agreed.

Then I said yeah the world is a s.hit show circus full of clowns and we left.

On the overground my female friend proclaimed.... he was a bit of a t.wat wasn't he?. yep he is! was my response.
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Russell Brand is guilty on 08:48 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsPlanetHonneywood

As with all these things of this nature,it comes down to simple questions:

What was known/suspected?

Who knew about it?

When did they know about it?

What did they do once they knew about it?

The answers are invariably: Plenty. Many. Early. Nothing.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 09:35 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsE17hoop

Russell Brand is guilty on 08:48 - Nov 6 by PlanetHonneywood

As with all these things of this nature,it comes down to simple questions:

What was known/suspected?

Who knew about it?

When did they know about it?

What did they do once they knew about it?

The answers are invariably: Plenty. Many. Early. Nothing.


This.

The talent has always been protected, and the boundaries of what is and isn't acceptable are ridiculous. Katy Brand, the writer, called him out, as have many other female comedians and writers were censured and quietly dropped because he was the draw.

When a man's defence in court is “Disgusting, distasteful, immoral – who cares? It’s irrelevant to your consideration.” it's becomes entirely relevant to my consideration of him as a person and whether he should be lauded and given work.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 09:37 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsFDC

Russell Brand is guilty on 08:48 - Nov 6 by PlanetHonneywood

As with all these things of this nature,it comes down to simple questions:

What was known/suspected?

Who knew about it?

When did they know about it?

What did they do once they knew about it?

The answers are invariably: Plenty. Many. Early. Nothing.


This is it. These things seem to only catch up with the likes of Brand once they stop being influential. Katherine Ryan called all this out a long time ago.

I found reading the defences closing summary so depressing, it's little wonder so few rape victims come forward.

As for the 'found god' schtick, do me a favor. Just part of his more recent right wing grift in the US.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 09:40 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsFDC

All of the above (apart from pseudo religiosity) will be relevant were a prominent TV personality and children's author to be revealed to have used his celebrity to be a sexual predator too
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Russell Brand is guilty on 11:44 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Again though serious questions need to be asked regarding all the TV/media companies that employed him. Plus politicians who courted his opinion, as if he spoke for the young of the day. It was an open secret, like Savill etc, that he was a wrong un.

How long shall we give him in prison before someone does an Ian Watkins on him. I'm going 18 months.

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Russell Brand is guilty on 11:52 - Nov 6 with 0 viewsQPunkR

Let us not forget that The Sun proclaimed him 'shagger of the year' three times

Shit but local

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