| Josh Bowler 08:23 - May 7 with 4570 views | connell10 |
To be released by Everton this summer, we did alright there didnt we. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 08:25 - May 7 with 3234 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Capital piece of business
Is he any good? I've never seen him play. If he is maybe we could do a cookie. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 08:27 - May 7 with 3227 views | connell10 |
| Josh Bowler on 08:25 - May 7 by Metallica_Hoop |
Capital piece of business
Is he any good? I've never seen him play. If he is maybe we could do a cookie. |
Dunno mate but didnt we get like a million for him? | |
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| Josh Bowler on 08:27 - May 7 with 3217 views | Metallica_Hoop |
| Josh Bowler on 08:27 - May 7 by connell10 |
Dunno mate but didnt we get like a million for him? |
More I think. (not much though) | |
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| Josh Bowler on 08:33 - May 7 with 3176 views | wombat |
| Josh Bowler on 08:27 - May 7 by Metallica_Hoop |
More I think. (not much though) |
how to blow a promising career in one easy lesson , last seen at hull and didnt loook like he had progressed much think he came on as sub against us. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 09:13 - May 7 with 3003 views | connell10 |
Yep , I bet he regrets it now when he sees all the youth coming through into the first team at the Rangers. | |
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| Josh Bowler on 09:20 - May 7 with 2986 views | eghamranger |
It’s all about the money with him obviously..
And a shocking decision by Everton |  | | |
| Josh Bowler on 09:42 - May 7 with 2914 views | PBLOCK |
I think he’s maybe been a bit unfortunate
He left us to go to Everton which is a big club and was a huge opportunity for him.
Had a loan spell at Hull last season or the season before where he played 30 odd games but didn’t really make much of an impact but they were really struggling which was probably quite tough when you are getting you first taste of proper first team football (apart from one sub appearance for us)
By all accounts went back to Everton and was playing well in the Under 23s and then got injured
Big summer for him. He’s 22 now and has 30 odd league starts which if you compare that to some of our younger players is not much.
He needs to go to the best club for him which will allow him to play football and try to show why Everton to a chance on him, not the club offering the most cash |  | | |
| Josh Bowler on 09:55 - May 7 with 2851 views | francisbowles |
He was a young boy who made a decision, probably highly influenced by agents, parents etc to join a top division side who, no doubt, made him promises of 'wealth and stardom'. Can't be many in that situation who wouldn't have made the same choice.
Unfortunately for him, it hasn't worked out and now he is trying to find a club.
We shouldn't be too hard on him.
Unfortunately for us, we won't be collecting any of the add ons to the initial £1.5 million (from memory). | | | |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:00 - May 7 with 2825 views | CamberleyR |
The new John Bostock. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:03 - May 7 with 2820 views | bosh67 |
I think we got about £4m for him from what I remember. It was a lot more than people thought. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:09 - May 7 with 2788 views | CamberleyR |
| Josh Bowler on 10:03 - May 7 by bosh67 |
I think we got about £4m for him from what I remember. It was a lot more than people thought. |
Not up front it wouldn't have been Bosh. I think we got £1.5m upfront and then add ons like being the next man to walk on the moon would bump it up to £4m. | |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:11 - May 7 with 2780 views | Metallica_Hoop |
| Josh Bowler on 10:09 - May 7 by CamberleyR |
Not up front it wouldn't have been Bosh. I think we got £1.5m upfront and then add ons like being the next man to walk on the moon would bump it up to £4m. |
1.5 was what I thought.
I guess we didn't qualify for many add-ons  | |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:24 - May 7 with 2728 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Josh Bowler on 09:55 - May 7 by francisbowles |
He was a young boy who made a decision, probably highly influenced by agents, parents etc to join a top division side who, no doubt, made him promises of 'wealth and stardom'. Can't be many in that situation who wouldn't have made the same choice.
Unfortunately for him, it hasn't worked out and now he is trying to find a club.
We shouldn't be too hard on him.
Unfortunately for us, we won't be collecting any of the add ons to the initial £1.5 million (from memory). |
"He was a young boy who made a decision, probably highly influenced by agents, parents etc to join a top division side who, no doubt, made him promises of 'wealth and stardom'. Can't be many in that situation who wouldn't have made the same choice."
It's horrible pressure for a young lad, and a dreadful decision to make either way.
Best of luck to him. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:30 - May 7 with 2705 views | derbyhoop |
He had a number of clubs before QPR and must have hoped he'd make it big. It hasn't at Everon nor when on loan at Hull.
L1 calling? [Post edited 7 May 2021 10:35]
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| Josh Bowler on 10:30 - May 7 with 2702 views | rsonist |
Calvert-Lewin and Holgate made the same move at the time. There's no moral to the story here. |  | | |
| Josh Bowler on 10:36 - May 7 with 2671 views | derbyhoop |
| Josh Bowler on 10:30 - May 7 by rsonist |
Calvert-Lewin and Holgate made the same move at the time. There's no moral to the story here. |
Maybe they wanted it more. | |
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| Josh Bowler on 10:37 - May 7 with 2650 views | PlanetHonneywood |
At the time, the Toffees were focusing on buying and developing young English talent and they had invested in John Stokes, D C-L and had a few lads coming through.
So given the extra wages, it wasn’t the worst decision given the mess QPR were in at the time.
The real question here: any merit in taking him back and try pick up the pieces? |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 11:13 - May 7 with 2565 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Josh Bowler on 10:30 - May 7 by rsonist |
Calvert-Lewin and Holgate made the same move at the time. There's no moral to the story here. |
Yeah was going to say the same thing. Going to Everton, a club that has an obvious pathway to the first team for good youngsters and has done for a while now, was not a bad move. I'd even say it was a good move that didn't work out. That happens. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 11:27 - May 7 with 2527 views | 89_50 |
| Josh Bowler on 10:37 - May 7 by PlanetHonneywood |
At the time, the Toffees were focusing on buying and developing young English talent and they had invested in John Stokes, D C-L and had a few lads coming through.
So given the extra wages, it wasn’t the worst decision given the mess QPR were in at the time.
The real question here: any merit in taking him back and try pick up the pieces? |
I was wondering the same thing. Not sure whether he's better than what we've got, though. |  | | |
| Josh Bowler on 11:43 - May 7 with 2477 views | kensalriser |
Lots of promising youngsters don’t make it for various reasons.
Remember when we got relegated in 1996? I don’t think any of the players who weren’t in or around the first team at the time even went on to have careers at any level in the league. I stand to be corrected if that’s a false memory. |  |
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| Josh Bowler on 11:51 - May 7 with 2443 views | bosh67 |
| Josh Bowler on 10:09 - May 7 by CamberleyR |
Not up front it wouldn't have been Bosh. I think we got £1.5m upfront and then add ons like being the next man to walk on the moon would bump it up to £4m. |
I'm guessing £1.5m was good business then in this case. | |
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| Josh Bowler on 11:52 - May 7 with 2439 views | PhilmyRs |
| Josh Bowler on 11:43 - May 7 by kensalriser |
Lots of promising youngsters don’t make it for various reasons.
Remember when we got relegated in 1996? I don’t think any of the players who weren’t in or around the first team at the time even went on to have careers at any level in the league. I stand to be corrected if that’s a false memory. |
Gallen, Dichio, Quashie went on to have fairly decent careers although not sure whether they played top flight - think Quashie did and Dichio played For Sampdoria. Brazier played for Fulham and Challis played quite low level from memory. Had high hopes for them all and don’t think any of them kicked on to where I thought their ability would take them, I include Gallen in that but injury was a factor in that one. | | | |
| Josh Bowler on 13:24 - May 7 with 2179 views | DavieQPR |
| Josh Bowler on 10:11 - May 7 by Metallica_Hoop |
1.5 was what I thought.
I guess we didn't qualify for many add-ons |
That's what I understood as well £1.5m going to £4.2 with add ons. |  | | |
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