| Rangers fan here 14:17 - Nov 24 with 9963 views | yb1872 |
I did try to reply to the other thread but I couldn't see how to do it so feel free admin to drop it in there. Just to ask really if somethings changed since last month with the board and beale, beale said that he has ambitions of going to the highest level which there's nothing wrong with and that's the attitude he should have. When he knocked back the wolves job I said at the time it shows a lack of ambition as the wolves job would be progress for where he wants to end up.
The reason I'm asking if somethings changed between the board and him is because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to come to us in the spl after knocking back an epl club. Even staying with yourselfs and getting into the play offs would be seen as a bigger achievement on his cv than winning the league with us where he has a budget around 15 times more than every club bar 1. We will still attract managers etc to a decent level as we pay decent enough money. He could win the next 5 leagues in a row with us and it wouldn't guarantee him an epl job as its not really that big an achievement when only competing against 1 team. If we are being honest I don't think anyone would try and argue qpr are a bigger club than what we are. But there's a very genuine argument that doing well at qpr gives him a better chance of getting himself up that ladder than doing well with us. This seems like a backward step.
His appointment isn't very popular with the vast majority of rangers fans up here at all . |  | | |  |
| Rangers fan here on 14:19 - Nov 24 with 6221 views | Lblock |
You mean you won't all be holding your breath when the Charlton job comes up as available?
Credibility is something you need in football and I think he's losing that |  |
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| Rangers fan here on 14:26 - Nov 24 with 6163 views | Toast_R |
You do wonder if he can convince players outside of the SPL to join GR when they will have a nagging feeling in the back of their minds that he'll fcuk off when a better opportunity arises which, in this day and age of hiring and firing managers multiple times a season, is pretty likely. |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 14:29 - Nov 24 with 6110 views | daveB |
I don't think anything has really changed, the board seem to love him here.
The timing of us going top of the league and the Wolves job offer I think had a big impact in him turning that down and considering how well we played against Cardiff that night I think he thought he'd stay and see it out as something was brewing.
We've had a few bad results since due to a variety of reasons, drop in form, injuries, missed penalty etc but personally i didn't think there was anything going on behind the scenes to cause this but who knows. Just felt like QPR the last few years, good for a few weeks then drop like a stone with no warning or reason
Good luck to him if he goes, is a good coach but personally think you'd have been better off going with Dyche |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 14:30 - Nov 24 with 6098 views | dmm |
Nothing has changed between him and the board as far as we know. However, following the Wolves job, things haven't been right on the pitch which might indicate something somewhere isn't right.
As you may have picked up, Beale is quickly losing QPR supporters. He's a good coach and can talk a good game but making eyes at other clubs is never going to make a manager popular.
It's interesting you say Gers fans are not keen. Why do you think that is the case? |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 14:50 - Nov 24 with 5961 views | yb1872 |
It's not popular because it's another gamble, he's had around 20 games as a manager. He's not a name like a gerrard for instance who although lacked experience he could make up for some of it as it could open up the possibility for players coning just because it's him. He was arguably one of the best midfielders in the world in his time. That alone makes people want to work with him.
I've no problem with managers, or players for that matter leaving when a better option comes up. If any manager or player turns down an epl club while there in scotland shows a lack of ambition if I'm being honest. If you have confidence in your ability then although a lower epl side might not be as big a club as rangers. If you perform in thr epl for one of the lower clubs then you will get picked up by another side no problem as you have shown you can perform in the league. The difference in standard between the epl and the spl is night and day. I'd even argue if the players young enough then even going to the championship and performing would get more clubs interested from thr epl than playing in the spl. The standard of the championship isn't great but its still alot better than 10 out 12 sides in the spl.
From a neutrals point of view this just seems a strange move for career progression. I know it's not announced yet but trust me it's getting announced in the next couple of days. The deals been done. | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:03 - Nov 24 with 5863 views | robith |
What's changed is - he was managing a QPR team top of the table, taking over a Wolves team in wretched form with 6 games until the World Cup was a huge risk to his reputation
He is now managing a QPR team 7th whose form has fallen away, has a bigger connection to Rangers, and rightly or wrongly, probably sees the job as a softer landing that the Wolves one |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:10 - Nov 24 with 5803 views | slmrstid |
He's spoken before about wanting to manage in European competition so maybe in Beale's mind its a fast-track to the Champions League. |  | | |
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| Rangers fan here on 15:14 - Nov 24 with 5769 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Don’t bother painting his name in his parking spot. He’ll be gone before the second verse of GSTQ. |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:18 - Nov 24 with 5734 views | brad |
so your saying.....the deal is done and dusted....you should be on your own forum coming with these views.....what are your fans feeling about this....if hes gone......we at QPR will move on and hopefully use the compo we get for him wisely............good luck to him if as you say hes gone to your club | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:23 - Nov 24 with 5686 views | flynnbo |
| Rangers fan here on 15:14 - Nov 24 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Don’t bother painting his name in his parking spot. He’ll be gone before the second verse of GSTQ. |
GSTQ? Keep up, Bazz! |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:29 - Nov 24 with 5631 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Rangers fan here on 15:23 - Nov 24 by flynnbo |
GSTQ? Keep up, Bazz! |
I’ve not read a paper lately. | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 15:41 - Nov 24 with 5535 views | Phildo |
He is a good coach and a good talker. Players seem to like him.
It is too early to judge him as a manager IMO.
He is clearly very ambitious and in his mind would be coming to GR to follow Stevie G and Rodgers at Celtic - by getting a move to a premier club and finally on to Real Madrid so prepare to be fluffed then used and abused.
The Wolves thing I suspect we do not yet fully know what went on.
Our club has pretty much the same strengths and weaknesses it had before he arrived save one or two decent additions although a number of these being loans we have next to no chance of making permanent.
Managers are often made to look good or dire by the inherent characteristics of the club they are at and we put the Jekyll into Jekyll and Hyde TBH.
Managers come and go like owners and players but we will all be still here in years to come. Suspect he has done a bit of damage to his credibility in the industry to be honest. [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 15:47]
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| Glasgow Rangers fan here on 15:42 - Nov 24 with 5526 views | BrianMcCarthy |
*Glasgow* Rangers, if you please.
To us, 'Rangers' means us, as you'd imagine. [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 22:04]
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| Rangers fan here on 15:45 - Nov 24 with 5469 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Don't grow too attached to him.
If Brazil don't win the World Cup, he'll no doubt be their number one target as he can speak Portuguese and has won every honour in the game. | | | |
| Glasgow Rangers fan here on 15:49 - Nov 24 with 5432 views | BrianMcCarthy |
To answer your question, no - nothing's changed between him and the board, at least as far as we know. [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 22:04]
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| Rangers fan here on 16:20 - Nov 24 with 5216 views | Boston |
He's yours...for ten million. | |
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| Rangers fan here on 16:29 - Nov 24 with 5165 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Rangers fan here on 16:20 - Nov 24 by Boston |
He's yours...for ten million. |
Throw in another eight million and you can take Dykes too. |  |
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| Rangers fan here on 17:16 - Nov 24 with 4993 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Glasgow Rangers fan here on 15:49 - Nov 24 by BrianMcCarthy |
To answer your question, no - nothing's changed between him and the board, at least as far as we know. [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 22:04]
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I bet it has now. | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 17:32 - Nov 24 with 4925 views | essextaxiboy |
Respect to Glasgow Rangers but its a a huge club in a tiny pond .
Success there is like shooting fish in a barrel , It looks like a career backwater to me .
As Clive says in the other thread , we are 7th, and lose to the weaker teams in the division for fun .
Beales coaching is well respected in the game , but so was Mclarens .. |  | | |
| Rangers fan here on 17:41 - Nov 24 with 4868 views | HAYESBOY |
Basically, nothing has changed except all the paper reports going mad.
Club have said if he wants to go, they will not stop him, same as the Wolves job.
Same sht different month. |  |
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| Rangers fan here on 18:17 - Nov 24 with 4732 views | yb1872 |
| Rangers fan here on 17:32 - Nov 24 by essextaxiboy |
Respect to Glasgow Rangers but its a a huge club in a tiny pond .
Success there is like shooting fish in a barrel , It looks like a career backwater to me .
As Clive says in the other thread , we are 7th, and lose to the weaker teams in the division for fun .
Beales coaching is well respected in the game , but so was Mclarens .. |
I actually agree with you, club size wise there's not many bigger in the uk. But if he has ambitions to go to the top then this is a backwards step. Rangers are a bigger club than wolves, but looking at it as a neutral you would have to be daft to argue that choosing rangers over wolves is the better career option. It made no sense for him to stay with yourselfs when an epl club wanted to give him an opportunity as its a step up in the right direction. If he done well with wolves then it would get noticed and he'd get looked at for better jobs winning the league with rangers isn't going to put him in the frame for a job in the epl as its not that big of an achievement. Like I said, him getting qpr promoted could be argued that its more of an achievement on his cv to get a better job than winning in scotland.I thought maybe something had happened in the last month between him and the board maybe.
I'm not one of those fans who are deluded and think that we are a bigger draw for a manager or player than clubs in the epl because we are a bigger club. 10 out of 10 times anyone with any sense is choosing the team in the epl before going to Scotland. | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 18:28 - Nov 24 with 4664 views | essextaxiboy |
| Rangers fan here on 18:17 - Nov 24 by yb1872 |
I actually agree with you, club size wise there's not many bigger in the uk. But if he has ambitions to go to the top then this is a backwards step. Rangers are a bigger club than wolves, but looking at it as a neutral you would have to be daft to argue that choosing rangers over wolves is the better career option. It made no sense for him to stay with yourselfs when an epl club wanted to give him an opportunity as its a step up in the right direction. If he done well with wolves then it would get noticed and he'd get looked at for better jobs winning the league with rangers isn't going to put him in the frame for a job in the epl as its not that big of an achievement. Like I said, him getting qpr promoted could be argued that its more of an achievement on his cv to get a better job than winning in scotland.I thought maybe something had happened in the last month between him and the board maybe.
I'm not one of those fans who are deluded and think that we are a bigger draw for a manager or player than clubs in the epl because we are a bigger club. 10 out of 10 times anyone with any sense is choosing the team in the epl before going to Scotland. |
It may be that Beale and Gerrard just complimented each other , just because Beale enjoyed his time there I dont think its a given that he comes back and repeats the success.
Gerrard is a big name to attract players , he knows how to motivate and has played under some legendary managers watching their game management and in the dressing room .
IMO Beale has yet to find that in his time with us .
He only has to finish second up there to be a failure [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 18:28]
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| Rangers fan here on 18:48 - Nov 24 with 4550 views | distortR |
| Glasgow Rangers fan here on 15:49 - Nov 24 by BrianMcCarthy |
To answer your question, no - nothing's changed between him and the board, at least as far as we know. [Post edited 24 Nov 2022 22:04]
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Quite a lot has changed between him and the bored, though. | | | |
| Rangers fan here on 19:58 - Nov 24 with 4325 views | connell10 |
| Rangers fan here on 14:50 - Nov 24 by yb1872 |
It's not popular because it's another gamble, he's had around 20 games as a manager. He's not a name like a gerrard for instance who although lacked experience he could make up for some of it as it could open up the possibility for players coning just because it's him. He was arguably one of the best midfielders in the world in his time. That alone makes people want to work with him.
I've no problem with managers, or players for that matter leaving when a better option comes up. If any manager or player turns down an epl club while there in scotland shows a lack of ambition if I'm being honest. If you have confidence in your ability then although a lower epl side might not be as big a club as rangers. If you perform in thr epl for one of the lower clubs then you will get picked up by another side no problem as you have shown you can perform in the league. The difference in standard between the epl and the spl is night and day. I'd even argue if the players young enough then even going to the championship and performing would get more clubs interested from thr epl than playing in the spl. The standard of the championship isn't great but its still alot better than 10 out 12 sides in the spl.
From a neutrals point of view this just seems a strange move for career progression. I know it's not announced yet but trust me it's getting announced in the next couple of days. The deals been done. |
You might get 20 games out of until he starts looking to improve his CV with a bigger club. |  |
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