| Posties…. 23:18 - Aug 9 with 14441 views | colinallcars |
Four days strike action in Aug and Sept. We should really get behind them on this issue.
They are an integral part of all our lives and, I feel, somewhat taken for granted.
Give them a good pay rise to show how much we appreciate them. |  | | |  |
| Posties…. on 21:57 - Aug 10 with 2144 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Posties…. on 21:17 - Aug 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
The reality is if Royal Mail doesn't deliver someone else will. My argument is not about workers conditions and the boards bonuses etc, my thought is that a four day strike will impact a minority of people. The brutal fact is less and less people are reliant on the postal service due to email and a vast majority of people will notice nothing. |
Due to Email? Email has been around for years and years hasn't it? |  |
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| Posties…. on 22:05 - Aug 10 with 2076 views | silverbirch |
| Posties…. on 21:48 - Aug 10 by BazzaInTheLoft |
That £611m used to go into the treasury’s pocket too. |
Did it make a profit in those days? (Serious and honest question) |  | | |
| Posties…. on 22:19 - Aug 10 with 2011 views | lightwaterhoop |
Best of luck to the postal workers and the bin men who are on strike in my area.Working people should always have good terms and conditions otherwise a society becomes a joke and when a society becomes a joke anything can and will happen.Its in everyones interest to properly reward people.
PS. I rely on my Postman a lot. [Post edited 10 Aug 2022 22:23]
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| Posties…. on 22:27 - Aug 10 with 1983 views | ozexile |
Good luck to them. The working class have been betrayed by successive Tory Governments. | | | |
| Posties…. on 22:39 - Aug 10 with 1953 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Posties…. on 22:27 - Aug 10 by ozexile |
Good luck to them. The working class have been betrayed by successive Tory Governments. |
Consignia was 2002 so not much to do with Tories.
I wouldn't mind so much but there doesn't seem to be a good plan to replace it.
Society chewing on it's own fat. | |
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| Posties…. on 23:00 - Aug 10 with 1903 views | stowmarketrange |
They made a profit in the 80’s as thatcher stopped them paying into our pension fund for years,and then Royal Mail changed the pension scheme in 1989 as they said that there was a deficit in the old scheme.Even she stopped short of privatising it,but it was only until the next pigs got a chance at the trough. |  | | |
| Posties…. on 23:57 - Aug 10 with 1829 views | Boston |
| Posties…. on 22:27 - Aug 10 by ozexile |
Good luck to them. The working class have been betrayed by successive Tory Governments. |
If you blame one political party over another, you'll be taking your eye off the ball. | |
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| Posties…. on 00:05 - Aug 11 with 1819 views | ozexile |
| Posties…. on 23:57 - Aug 10 by Boston |
If you blame one political party over another, you'll be taking your eye off the ball. |
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| Posties…. on 00:47 - Aug 11 with 1797 views | Snipper |
Best of luck to the posties.
I’m proud that my union, RMT, started the fight back. The Tories, and their mates in the media always call us greedy. The amount of anti union stuff I’ve heard is cringeworthy.
We have a very real cost of living crisis on our hands. Every household will be paying north of £400 per month from October. It’s like having a never ending mortgage.
Thousands will die this winter owing to this. [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 0:47]
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| Posties…. on 01:07 - Aug 11 with 1752 views | Miss_Terraces |
| Posties…. on 23:57 - Aug 10 by Boston |
If you blame one political party over another, you'll be taking your eye off the ball. |
As a labour voter, I totally agree with you. My party's incompetence/corruption has played a huge part in the tories destruction of this country | |
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| Posties…. on 01:12 - Aug 11 with 1735 views | kensalriser |
| Posties…. on 00:47 - Aug 11 by Snipper |
Best of luck to the posties.
I’m proud that my union, RMT, started the fight back. The Tories, and their mates in the media always call us greedy. The amount of anti union stuff I’ve heard is cringeworthy.
We have a very real cost of living crisis on our hands. Every household will be paying north of £400 per month from October. It’s like having a never ending mortgage.
Thousands will die this winter owing to this. [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 0:47]
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Funny how it's always the lower and moderately paid workers who are the greedy ones and not corporate and city fat cats.
Actually not funny at all, it's just a bullshit narrative propagated by the oligarch owned press.
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| Posties…. on 06:28 - Aug 11 with 1673 views | silverbirch |
Thanks | | | |
| Posties…. on 07:10 - Aug 11 with 1634 views | Ranger_Things |
| Posties…. on 00:47 - Aug 11 by Snipper |
Best of luck to the posties.
I’m proud that my union, RMT, started the fight back. The Tories, and their mates in the media always call us greedy. The amount of anti union stuff I’ve heard is cringeworthy.
We have a very real cost of living crisis on our hands. Every household will be paying north of £400 per month from October. It’s like having a never ending mortgage.
Thousands will die this winter owing to this. [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 0:47]
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The energy companies are making profits on a scale never before seen. In France the government reacted by capping prices at 4 % to stop profiteering and protect the customer. Over here the Tory’s gave the energy companies huge new tax cuts which they didn’t need and means we are not only paying through the nose but further subsidising them with our taxes. |  | | |
| Posties…. on 07:25 - Aug 11 with 1587 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
When Royal Mail was privatised the government gave bankers Lazard £1.5m to advise on the flotation share price.
Lazard advised a price of 330p and bought 6 million for themselves. They sold the lot within 48 hours for a profit of £8.4m.
It’s so bent! |  | | |
| Posties…. on 09:21 - Aug 11 with 1495 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Posties…. on 20:06 - Aug 10 by MedwayR |
Unless you're one of the wealthy minority who take dividends then you're the same as the rest of us. We're all just varying shades of poor and should be supporting each other. The wealthy and the companies they own have had it far too good for far too long, paying out dividends at their workers expense. It's time for change. |
You can only draw dividends from a profit making business. Not all businesses will survive this next year or two and therefore equity partners and shareholders of SME’s will be suffering just as much. [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 9:22]
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| Posties…. on 09:36 - Aug 11 with 1472 views | lightwaterhoop |
| Posties…. on 07:10 - Aug 11 by Ranger_Things |
The energy companies are making profits on a scale never before seen. In France the government reacted by capping prices at 4 % to stop profiteering and protect the customer. Over here the Tory’s gave the energy companies huge new tax cuts which they didn’t need and means we are not only paying through the nose but further subsidising them with our taxes. |
If only it were so simple as that.The French Govenment is being sued for billions by the energy companies as their now making huge losses. | | | |
| Posties…. on 11:44 - Aug 11 with 1373 views | SheffieldHoop |
I'm under 30, so I get most of my letters electronically. All my bills, all my statements, payslips, everything is electronic, either sent to me via email or held on a portal. The only things I get from Royal mail are "You've been pre-selected for a credit card, please apply now" & Birthday/Christmas cards. Or occasionally, junk mail is still sent to my dad, who died over 3 years ago.
We're also being told all the time that we're in a climate emergency - Is having the thick end of 50k vans driving around delivering mail - which in many cases is a complete waste of paper - really that necessary? A big part of "going green" is reducing how much paper we use.
Like the trains, Royal mail is in desperate need of modernisation. Also like the trains, they can strike whenever they want for all I care, I've got the technology to work around it. |  |
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| Posties…. on 11:59 - Aug 11 with 1348 views | hubble |
A postman - or woman - does more than just deliver letters, they can be a friendly face for people living on their own or in more remote areas, maybe even a lifeline. I knew my local postman by name, he delivered my mail for over 25 years until he retired recently. The human element is something people completely miss when they talk about how the postal service is out of date or in need of a massive overhaul. Our over-reliance on eveything electric and internet based could really come back and bite us.
At the same time, while I totally understand any worker fighting for better pay, the bigger picture is that globalisation has reduced all workers to disposable fodder for the vast corporations that care little or nothing for borders, rights and, well, humanity. Although of course, they pay lip service to whatever cause is currently trending, they have hoovered up all our previously publicly owned companies and utilities alike. We are teetering on the brink of a transformation in society so radical we may not fully understand it until it's overtaken us. How people will be able to retain their 'humanness', their cultural identity and community in the face of this onslaught I don't know, but it concerns me deeply. |  |
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| Posties…. on 12:01 - Aug 11 with 1346 views | stowmarketrange |
| Posties…. on 11:44 - Aug 11 by SheffieldHoop |
I'm under 30, so I get most of my letters electronically. All my bills, all my statements, payslips, everything is electronic, either sent to me via email or held on a portal. The only things I get from Royal mail are "You've been pre-selected for a credit card, please apply now" & Birthday/Christmas cards. Or occasionally, junk mail is still sent to my dad, who died over 3 years ago.
We're also being told all the time that we're in a climate emergency - Is having the thick end of 50k vans driving around delivering mail - which in many cases is a complete waste of paper - really that necessary? A big part of "going green" is reducing how much paper we use.
Like the trains, Royal mail is in desperate need of modernisation. Also like the trains, they can strike whenever they want for all I care, I've got the technology to work around it. |
So it won’t matter much to you then if the only jobs left in the country are in call centres or phone shops then?Where are people supposed to work if everything is modernised and machines do the work of 25 staff,as long as it saves money to pay out to shareholders and bosses?
I’m glad I’m at the end of my working life rather than starting out in it as there won’t be many jobs left soon,except for care workers. | | | |
| Posties…. on 12:03 - Aug 11 with 1334 views | DannytheR |
| Posties…. on 11:44 - Aug 11 by SheffieldHoop |
I'm under 30, so I get most of my letters electronically. All my bills, all my statements, payslips, everything is electronic, either sent to me via email or held on a portal. The only things I get from Royal mail are "You've been pre-selected for a credit card, please apply now" & Birthday/Christmas cards. Or occasionally, junk mail is still sent to my dad, who died over 3 years ago.
We're also being told all the time that we're in a climate emergency - Is having the thick end of 50k vans driving around delivering mail - which in many cases is a complete waste of paper - really that necessary? A big part of "going green" is reducing how much paper we use.
Like the trains, Royal mail is in desperate need of modernisation. Also like the trains, they can strike whenever they want for all I care, I've got the technology to work around it. |
Literally in the last couple of days alone got a (supposedly) crucial form from my bank that *they* very much specified could only be dealt with as a hard copy, and a pretty important written correspondence from the hospital about my wife having a cancer check up.
By all means, kick on with putting the infrastructure in place in, say, banking and the NHS to make these exchanges digital. Until that actually happens (rather than existing in some addled, unreal version of a hyper-modern, ultra-efficient Britain), I'm grateful to the person who gets them to me. And I think they should be paid a wage that allows them to at least pay their gas bill.
I'm at work today so won't have the time for an endless ping-pong about it, but out of curiosity, as someone who talks quite as much as you do about "the working class" —Â are there any actual working people you don't happily write off as skivers or obsolete? [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 12:16]
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| Posties…. on 12:08 - Aug 11 with 1314 views | Hayesender |
| Posties…. on 11:59 - Aug 11 by hubble |
A postman - or woman - does more than just deliver letters, they can be a friendly face for people living on their own or in more remote areas, maybe even a lifeline. I knew my local postman by name, he delivered my mail for over 25 years until he retired recently. The human element is something people completely miss when they talk about how the postal service is out of date or in need of a massive overhaul. Our over-reliance on eveything electric and internet based could really come back and bite us.
At the same time, while I totally understand any worker fighting for better pay, the bigger picture is that globalisation has reduced all workers to disposable fodder for the vast corporations that care little or nothing for borders, rights and, well, humanity. Although of course, they pay lip service to whatever cause is currently trending, they have hoovered up all our previously publicly owned companies and utilities alike. We are teetering on the brink of a transformation in society so radical we may not fully understand it until it's overtaken us. How people will be able to retain their 'humanness', their cultural identity and community in the face of this onslaught I don't know, but it concerns me deeply. |
Absolutely this. There's a few elderly people on my round who live on their own. During lockdown I'd sometimes knock to see if they were OK, or if they needed me to get them some bread and milk etc.
There's a lovely West Indian family I deliver to. When their father passed away a few months ago, they insisted I go to the funeral.
Unfortunately I couldn't go as I was working, but I popped my head in at the wake for a bit on my way home.
Some people obviously couldn't care less, but for me that's a massive plus about our job |  |
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| Posties…. on 12:16 - Aug 11 with 1294 views | daveB |
| Posties…. on 19:46 - Aug 10 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but who even uses the post anymore? I only seem to get junk mail coming through my door. I am all for workers rights, but unfortunately the postal service is doomed with email etc. Be honest, who is actually going to miss their post for 4 days?! |
I get my QPR away tickets by post
Completly support them, not sure how anyone can say they are well paid. |  | | |
| Posties…. on 12:28 - Aug 11 with 1269 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Posties…. on 12:03 - Aug 11 by DannytheR |
Literally in the last couple of days alone got a (supposedly) crucial form from my bank that *they* very much specified could only be dealt with as a hard copy, and a pretty important written correspondence from the hospital about my wife having a cancer check up.
By all means, kick on with putting the infrastructure in place in, say, banking and the NHS to make these exchanges digital. Until that actually happens (rather than existing in some addled, unreal version of a hyper-modern, ultra-efficient Britain), I'm grateful to the person who gets them to me. And I think they should be paid a wage that allows them to at least pay their gas bill.
I'm at work today so won't have the time for an endless ping-pong about it, but out of curiosity, as someone who talks quite as much as you do about "the working class" —Â are there any actual working people you don't happily write off as skivers or obsolete? [Post edited 11 Aug 2022 12:16]
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What form would that be? Are you applying for a mortgage or something? I'm sure there are still some forms that legally require a signature from a wet ink pen - But they're becoming less and less common. About time they were outlawed altogether really.
The infrastructure is in place already. I used DocuSign to sign off a tenancy agreement in 2013. I've booked my doctor's appointments via the online portal since even earlier. It's hardly new stuff, it's been around for ages.
I don't even know what to make of your final paragraph - Have you got any actual examples or are you just ranting at this point? | |
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| Posties…. on 12:31 - Aug 11 with 1240 views | SheffieldHoop |
| Posties…. on 12:01 - Aug 11 by stowmarketrange |
So it won’t matter much to you then if the only jobs left in the country are in call centres or phone shops then?Where are people supposed to work if everything is modernised and machines do the work of 25 staff,as long as it saves money to pay out to shareholders and bosses?
I’m glad I’m at the end of my working life rather than starting out in it as there won’t be many jobs left soon,except for care workers. |
I'm glad I'm at the start of my working life where boring manual monotonous tasks are being automated in favour of people doing work that is actually rewarding.
If the best part of being a postman is the caring for the community aspect, why not drop the postal part and just become a full-time carer? | |
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