| General Election Thread 17:46 - May 22 with 219875 views | loftboy |
This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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| General Election Thread on 11:28 - Jul 5 with 1361 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 11:15 - Jul 5 by dmm |
How can it possibly be right and accurate when he's making a future prediction? |
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| General Election Thread on 11:29 - Jul 5 with 1353 views | Orthodox_Hoop |
| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 by dmm |
What an awful comment to make but it only adds to my feeling that this country is more right wing despite voting in a "Labour" Govt. |
Genuinely curious why you felt the need to label this is an awful comment? I recently had a mandatory Islamophobia course at work (preceeded by a mandatory Anti-Semitism course) and the presenter, a British Muslim, openly said pretty much exactly the same thing in terms of what percentage of the country will be Muslim in 20 years, and that they would be the deciding vote in all future elections as if necessary they will vote along sectarian lines to get what they want.
I didn't read anything malicious in Beast's comment, and it wasn't more awful than let's say openly admitting to celebrating the death of a human being which I saw on another thread - yet no response from yourself labelling that an awful comment. [Post edited 5 Jul 13:35]
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| General Election Thread on 11:31 - Jul 5 with 1314 views | BucksRanger |
| General Election Thread on 11:26 - Jul 5 by Bluce_Ree |
I don't really give a f**k but I get why people are islamophobic in some sense. They've not got a great public image and taken to the extreme you end up with Afghanistan where basically life is hell. It's easy to be a bit worried about that. And that's what Farage wants. In fact, scrap that, Farage doesn't really care. He just wants influence and money.
But equally if someone is going to break into my house, steal my car, stamp on my head on a night out or on the way home from footie, be a dickhead neighbour, run me over with their motorbike while they speed down the high street, have seven dosser kids that then come and f**k with my neighbourhood etc, they're probably going to be white. Doesn't mean I'm going to vote for the Black Panther Party of Kill All Crackers. |
" Farage doesn't really care. He just wants influence and money."
Doesn't that statement apply to all politicians whatever their political party? |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:38 - Jul 5 with 1242 views | BucksRanger |
| General Election Thread on 11:31 - Jul 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
To be fair, Beast, that post is a bit different to your original post. It did appear to me at least that your problem was specifically with Muslims and not with all religions.
I agree that the ideal would be that all Governments were secular and that Church and state should always be seperated.
Either way, at the last census only 6% of the population identified as Muslim. Britain may elect a Muslim as PM, but I can't see an Islamic Government with Islamic laws on the horizon. |
Nor could the Shah of Iran, Brian, and look what happened to him and his country.
I've lived in a muslim country and there are a lot of things that you have to forego to fit in with the muslim community. They are not easy to get along with. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:45 - Jul 5 with 1167 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 11:31 - Jul 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
To be fair, Beast, that post is a bit different to your original post. It did appear to me at least that your problem was specifically with Muslims and not with all religions.
I agree that the ideal would be that all Governments were secular and that Church and state should always be seperated.
Either way, at the last census only 6% of the population identified as Muslim. Britain may elect a Muslim as PM, but I can't see an Islamic Government with Islamic laws on the horizon. |
In 2001 it was only 3%. Today it is closer to 7%.
By 2050 it will be?......
The people who don't give a toss about this stuff are the leftist-white people with 0 children. | |
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| General Election Thread on 11:45 - Jul 5 with 1174 views | Watford_Ranger |
| General Election Thread on 11:31 - Jul 5 by BucksRanger |
" Farage doesn't really care. He just wants influence and money."
Doesn't that statement apply to all politicians whatever their political party? |
No, I don’t think so. The 2019 version of the Tories were particularly awful and some MPs absolutely are in it as a bit of a gravy train and some of the opportunities the role creates but I think most people still enter politics for the right reasons. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:46 - Jul 5 with 1941 views | Juzzie |
Can we move away from this theme please. |  | | |
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| General Election Thread on 11:49 - Jul 5 with 1882 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 11:46 - Jul 5 by Juzzie |
Can we move away from this theme please. |
No. This will be the theme for the next 5 years. Own it. | |
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| General Election Thread on 11:55 - Jul 5 with 1857 views | 222gers |
Keir will anounce his cabinet later, I wonder who'll be Minister of Arts and Farts ?
Is there still a minister of Ag and Fish ? |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:56 - Jul 5 with 1845 views | Juzzie |
| General Election Thread on 11:49 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
No. This will be the theme for the next 5 years. Own it. |
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| General Election Thread on 11:56 - Jul 5 with 1831 views | Trom |
According to the last census, 6% of the entire UK population identifies as Muslim. This rises to 15% in London.
So not likely |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:59 - Jul 5 with 1763 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 11:56 - Jul 5 by Juzzie |
meeeooow. |
Why try to shut down the debate though? Does it make you uncomfortable? | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:00 - Jul 5 with 1768 views | Juzzie |
| General Election Thread on 11:59 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
Why try to shut down the debate though? Does it make you uncomfortable? |
Because it has nothing to do with this general election. If you want to discuss it, open separate thread. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 12:04 - Jul 5 with 1715 views | Konk |
| General Election Thread on 11:56 - Jul 5 by Trom |
According to the last census, 6% of the entire UK population identifies as Muslim. This rises to 15% in London.
So not likely |
Especially when you take FPTP into account and the fact that hundreds of constituencies have tiny Muslim populations. Also, Muslims are not a monolithic block who will all vote the same way. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 12:04 - Jul 5 with 1690 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 12:00 - Jul 5 by Juzzie |
Because it has nothing to do with this general election. If you want to discuss it, open separate thread. |
The size of the voting Muslim population has nothing to do with the general election when large chunks of the electorate have decided their vote based on their feelings about the Israel/Gaza conflict?
Strongly disagree | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:07 - Jul 5 with 1668 views | Juzzie |
| General Election Thread on 12:04 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
The size of the voting Muslim population has nothing to do with the general election when large chunks of the electorate have decided their vote based on their feelings about the Israel/Gaza conflict?
Strongly disagree |
I'm talking about predictions about what may happen in the future. That's not for today. Open another thread if people want to discuss what may happen in 20 years time. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 12:09 - Jul 5 with 1643 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 12:07 - Jul 5 by Juzzie |
I'm talking about predictions about what may happen in the future. That's not for today. Open another thread if people want to discuss what may happen in 20 years time. |
But then we'll go through the whole "Wtf is this? QPR only please" bullshit and nobody is able to have productive conversations are they?
We have a thread where we're allowed to talk about stuff, and we've got you trying to tone police it. Have a day off. | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:10 - Jul 5 with 1643 views | Juzzie |
| General Election Thread on 12:09 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
But then we'll go through the whole "Wtf is this? QPR only please" bullshit and nobody is able to have productive conversations are they?
We have a thread where we're allowed to talk about stuff, and we've got you trying to tone police it. Have a day off. |
mweeeow. The irony of you telling people not to police a thread by trying to police it yourself.
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| General Election Thread on 12:14 - Jul 5 with 1592 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 12:04 - Jul 5 by Konk |
Especially when you take FPTP into account and the fact that hundreds of constituencies have tiny Muslim populations. Also, Muslims are not a monolithic block who will all vote the same way. |
You can keep reassuring yourself with stuff like this, but you'll still be wrong | |
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| General Election Thread on 12:15 - Jul 5 with 1593 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Well chaps, it’s been emotional.
Apart from the odd ‘krank’ here, dog whistle there, and a whole lot of manufactured victimhood it’s been relatively civil.
Can feel the ID politics slipping in so i’m slipping out.
Good luck everyone, and may a lot of lessons be learned (they won’t). |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 12:18 - Jul 5 with 1544 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| General Election Thread on 12:15 - Jul 5 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Well chaps, it’s been emotional.
Apart from the odd ‘krank’ here, dog whistle there, and a whole lot of manufactured victimhood it’s been relatively civil.
Can feel the ID politics slipping in so i’m slipping out.
Good luck everyone, and may a lot of lessons be learned (they won’t). |
It's been a good thread. It's where I've gone to to keep informed. Didn't have much time to really get into this GE so this thread's been a great help.
Thanks all. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 12:20 - Jul 5 with 1511 views | Watford_Ranger |
| General Election Thread on 12:04 - Jul 5 by Konk |
Especially when you take FPTP into account and the fact that hundreds of constituencies have tiny Muslim populations. Also, Muslims are not a monolithic block who will all vote the same way. |
It will have impacted a small number of seats and that in itself is fine. Different people have different priorities and mid-war it’s always going to be a bigger issue than if we were a year on from now. My main issue is the NF-style tactics from the supporters of certain candidates. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 12:22 - Jul 5 with 1470 views | stevec |
| General Election Thread on 11:31 - Jul 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
To be fair, Beast, that post is a bit different to your original post. It did appear to me at least that your problem was specifically with Muslims and not with all religions.
I agree that the ideal would be that all Governments were secular and that Church and state should always be seperated.
Either way, at the last census only 6% of the population identified as Muslim. Britain may elect a Muslim as PM, but I can't see an Islamic Government with Islamic laws on the horizon. |
You may well be right Brian but as you well know, sectarianism on a religious basis is a very dangerous thing.
We are seeing MPs being elected on religious basis now, only very small numbers, but if this grows and it’s possible, then this country will have a far bigger problem than what’s going on the other side of the world these days.
We can’t just dismiss this as a potential issue. |  | | |
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