| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:29 - Mar 2 with 2262 views | Jevlar |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:55 - Mar 2 by vanrrrr |
Best team in the division I think. What i’d give for a midfield 4 like Hackney, Morris McGee and Browne |
Yeah I’ve enjoyed watching them play. It looks like they’ve got a spare man at times. Personally hope they top the table. Nice to see them stop Tom Brady’s Bluenoses [Post edited 2 Mar 22:43]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:43 - Mar 2 with 2191 views | Northernr |
Amazing switch from their manager tonight. Basically chucked everything they had been doing out of the window, switched to a back three with wing backs and attacked down the flanks. Looks like some bloke at this point. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 06:40 - Mar 3 with 1879 views | NorthantsHoop |
Well drilled, looking good Boro this season, it might be a very tough watch at Loftus Road on Sunday. I actually think we might be able to get a result in this game, if we can cut out those head scratching mistakes which usually put us on the back foot. Heart saying a 1-1 draw but head saying a Boro win, just hope it is not a tonking if Boro do win. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 07:25 - Mar 3 with 1801 views | mart_Goblin |
Seeing the Birmingham fans get ridiculously bent out of shape in that first half frightened me a bit of what’s to come on Sunday . I really fear this match because if they are on it, then it could get really ugly . Birmingham fans gave their own young goalkeeper dogs abuse too which I thought was disgusting to be honest , but I can really envisage it happening at LR at the weekend .
Middlesbrough look very good don’t they . |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:13 - Mar 3 with 1711 views | stowmarketrange |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 07:25 - Mar 3 by mart_Goblin |
Seeing the Birmingham fans get ridiculously bent out of shape in that first half frightened me a bit of what’s to come on Sunday . I really fear this match because if they are on it, then it could get really ugly . Birmingham fans gave their own young goalkeeper dogs abuse too which I thought was disgusting to be honest , but I can really envisage it happening at LR at the weekend .
Middlesbrough look very good don’t they . |
I’m not sure it will turn ugly on Sunday even if we’re losing.I thought I’d be angry when the goals went in on Saturday,but I was too apathetic to feel anything.
After the Wrexham and Blackburn capitulations I just couldn’t be bothered anymore.I’m sure a lot of people felt the same judging by the reactions of the people near me.
It seems to be what we do these days. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:59 - Mar 3 with 1623 views | TheChef |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 07:25 - Mar 3 by mart_Goblin |
Seeing the Birmingham fans get ridiculously bent out of shape in that first half frightened me a bit of what’s to come on Sunday . I really fear this match because if they are on it, then it could get really ugly . Birmingham fans gave their own young goalkeeper dogs abuse too which I thought was disgusting to be honest , but I can really envisage it happening at LR at the weekend .
Middlesbrough look very good don’t they . |
By all accounts the keeper took a knock to the head and probably should have been subbed?
I reckon the Boro match could be another 5-0 defeat; can only hope the ridiculous Sunday 4.30pm kick off spooks them more than us (but I very much doubt it). |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 09:01 - Mar 3 with 1615 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 07:25 - Mar 3 by mart_Goblin |
Seeing the Birmingham fans get ridiculously bent out of shape in that first half frightened me a bit of what’s to come on Sunday . I really fear this match because if they are on it, then it could get really ugly . Birmingham fans gave their own young goalkeeper dogs abuse too which I thought was disgusting to be honest , but I can really envisage it happening at LR at the weekend .
Middlesbrough look very good don’t they . |
If Middlesbrough play like they did last night, or at Sheff Utd when I watched them, we're going to have issues. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:09 - Mar 3 with 1499 views | BAWHoops |
Our best hope is to sit in and be defensive.
Get that ball up to Kone quickly and have someone with pace around him.
Need to stodge the midfield up as well, perhaps something like
Walsh, Mbengue, Cook, Dunne, RND, Hayden, Varane, Edwards, Smyth, Vale, Kone
It's desperately negative, but the potential to lose 4-5 in a row is creeping in |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:19 - Mar 3 with 1479 views | WestbourneR |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:43 - Mar 2 by Northernr |
Amazing switch from their manager tonight. Basically chucked everything they had been doing out of the window, switched to a back three with wing backs and attacked down the flanks. Looks like some bloke at this point. |
Case in point Northern. Their manager looks a bit special. I can't help but feel he'd be getting a lot more out of us, even with this squad and injuries.
TBH I actually think our only chance of success is to find a really special manager who can get us performing way above our station.
This squad has the talent IMO.
They would need to be fit of course... |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:36 - Mar 3 with 1426 views | TheChef |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:19 - Mar 3 by WestbourneR |
Case in point Northern. Their manager looks a bit special. I can't help but feel he'd be getting a lot more out of us, even with this squad and injuries.
TBH I actually think our only chance of success is to find a really special manager who can get us performing way above our station.
This squad has the talent IMO.
They would need to be fit of course... |
I'd even be tempted to go three at the back, given CB seems to be the position we're strongest in at the moment. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:58 - Mar 3 with 1376 views | johnhoop |
Think we may need to adopt the “Paul Hart” formation. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:31 - Mar 3 with 1324 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:19 - Mar 3 by WestbourneR |
Case in point Northern. Their manager looks a bit special. I can't help but feel he'd be getting a lot more out of us, even with this squad and injuries.
TBH I actually think our only chance of success is to find a really special manager who can get us performing way above our station.
This squad has the talent IMO.
They would need to be fit of course... |
I don't think I've ever really disagreed with this.
Special managers can achieve special things. Managers who fit well at a club can achieve things they wouldn't elsewhere. Managers matter, of course. I wrote that repeatedly during 2023/24 when we did the first four months with Gareth Ainsworth and the next five with Marti Cifuentes and we all saw the difference there.
But if your recruitment isn't right, your fitness and conditioning isn't right, your behind the scenes isn't right, ownership situation, politics, experience and ability of your DOF/CEO, whatever it is, it becomes more difficult for the manager to make headway.
I've been really impressed with Hellberg at Boro, but to be fair they were top two under Rob Edwards as well when he walked out and Edwards poor at Watford, very mixed at Luton, and is doing poorly now at Wolves. (Those three clubs are various degrees of basket cases atm, but that rather proves my point).
That would suggest there's more going on at Boro than simply stumbling on a miracle working manager.
For instance, their academy has actually produced first team players in Hayden Hackney, Sol Brynn and Dael Fry rather than just talking about it like we do. Imagine if our academy had produced those three, how much better our team would look right now, immediately, with the same manager.
They've shopped some developing markets and come back with Riley McGree (Oz), Aidan Morris and Adilsson Malanda (MLS) whereas ours have so may made negligible first team impact. Maybe ours just need more time, they're all young, or maybe Middlesbrough scouted theirs rather than picking them all up because they like working with the agent?
Middlesbrough spend more money than us, of course, so that helps (think their wages were £33m last week when their accounts came out). They have a bigger, newer stadium. Bigger support in a one-club town. Greater resources.
Middlesbrough have a very experienced, hands on, present owner in Steve Gibson who knows what he's doing.
So they're set up for a manager to succeed in a way we're simply not, in my opinion.
However, Boro also burned through several managers (including several who get mentioned on here as potential alternates for us quite a lot) while achieving nothing (Warnock, Wilder, Carrick, Woodgate, Pulis, Monk) so yeh, of course, looks like they've got a really good manager now and he's making a difference. As good managers do. We had a manager here who made a difference to us, and we fell out with him.
With us, I think our squad's overrated by many of us and now entirely unfit in any case, I think the financial/FFP/PSR restrictions make it difficult to do anything here anyway, and I don't think our club is set up to succeed (absent owner, inexperienced CEO/DOF), which all makes it very hard for a manager and why I very rarely alight on blaming whoever it is at any given moment.
I liked Cifuentes because it was somebody where you could see the team went from the level it was at to a level many times higher simply because he was in charge rather than the previous guy. And that was done with literally £zero to spend. Would Hellberg do that here? Maybe. I don't really see that with Stephan, to be honest, but I don't mind him per se, I don't think the poor results are really his fault, and crucially I don't think we would appoint anybody much different if he went.
Let's say we're looking for somebody new this summer. What do you think we'd go for? Kim Hellberg MkII? It'd be a head coach, not a manager. It would be somebody willing to cede control on all manner of things from set pieces to injuries/fitness of the squad to player recruitment. It would likely be somebody from France again because that's the market Nourry knows. It'd be Julian MkII, essentially.
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:32 - Mar 3 with 1319 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 09:01 - Mar 3 by Northernr |
If Middlesbrough play like they did last night, or at Sheff Utd when I watched them, we're going to have issues. |
If they play like they did when we beat them 5-0 we’ll have issues. [Post edited 3 Mar 12:27]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:52 - Mar 3 with 1244 views | wombat |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:31 - Mar 3 by Northernr |
I don't think I've ever really disagreed with this.
Special managers can achieve special things. Managers who fit well at a club can achieve things they wouldn't elsewhere. Managers matter, of course. I wrote that repeatedly during 2023/24 when we did the first four months with Gareth Ainsworth and the next five with Marti Cifuentes and we all saw the difference there.
But if your recruitment isn't right, your fitness and conditioning isn't right, your behind the scenes isn't right, ownership situation, politics, experience and ability of your DOF/CEO, whatever it is, it becomes more difficult for the manager to make headway.
I've been really impressed with Hellberg at Boro, but to be fair they were top two under Rob Edwards as well when he walked out and Edwards poor at Watford, very mixed at Luton, and is doing poorly now at Wolves. (Those three clubs are various degrees of basket cases atm, but that rather proves my point).
That would suggest there's more going on at Boro than simply stumbling on a miracle working manager.
For instance, their academy has actually produced first team players in Hayden Hackney, Sol Brynn and Dael Fry rather than just talking about it like we do. Imagine if our academy had produced those three, how much better our team would look right now, immediately, with the same manager.
They've shopped some developing markets and come back with Riley McGree (Oz), Aidan Morris and Adilsson Malanda (MLS) whereas ours have so may made negligible first team impact. Maybe ours just need more time, they're all young, or maybe Middlesbrough scouted theirs rather than picking them all up because they like working with the agent?
Middlesbrough spend more money than us, of course, so that helps (think their wages were £33m last week when their accounts came out). They have a bigger, newer stadium. Bigger support in a one-club town. Greater resources.
Middlesbrough have a very experienced, hands on, present owner in Steve Gibson who knows what he's doing.
So they're set up for a manager to succeed in a way we're simply not, in my opinion.
However, Boro also burned through several managers (including several who get mentioned on here as potential alternates for us quite a lot) while achieving nothing (Warnock, Wilder, Carrick, Woodgate, Pulis, Monk) so yeh, of course, looks like they've got a really good manager now and he's making a difference. As good managers do. We had a manager here who made a difference to us, and we fell out with him.
With us, I think our squad's overrated by many of us and now entirely unfit in any case, I think the financial/FFP/PSR restrictions make it difficult to do anything here anyway, and I don't think our club is set up to succeed (absent owner, inexperienced CEO/DOF), which all makes it very hard for a manager and why I very rarely alight on blaming whoever it is at any given moment.
I liked Cifuentes because it was somebody where you could see the team went from the level it was at to a level many times higher simply because he was in charge rather than the previous guy. And that was done with literally £zero to spend. Would Hellberg do that here? Maybe. I don't really see that with Stephan, to be honest, but I don't mind him per se, I don't think the poor results are really his fault, and crucially I don't think we would appoint anybody much different if he went.
Let's say we're looking for somebody new this summer. What do you think we'd go for? Kim Hellberg MkII? It'd be a head coach, not a manager. It would be somebody willing to cede control on all manner of things from set pieces to injuries/fitness of the squad to player recruitment. It would likely be somebody from France again because that's the market Nourry knows. It'd be Julian MkII, essentially.
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nicely put clive as always , if he does leave and i can see the same cracks appearing this season as last , it will be simply the first person to YES wont come down to skills ability , development , winning the cup in 2019 its simply anyone who says yes to the board , somebody whos willing to accept his input is minimal at best . as its been said for way to long the issues are at the top and until thats changed nothing will get better going foward , we try changing things and invent a new way each time of fecking it up to fall even deeper into the abyss. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:12 - Mar 3 with 1206 views | Jevlar |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:31 - Mar 3 by Northernr |
I don't think I've ever really disagreed with this.
Special managers can achieve special things. Managers who fit well at a club can achieve things they wouldn't elsewhere. Managers matter, of course. I wrote that repeatedly during 2023/24 when we did the first four months with Gareth Ainsworth and the next five with Marti Cifuentes and we all saw the difference there.
But if your recruitment isn't right, your fitness and conditioning isn't right, your behind the scenes isn't right, ownership situation, politics, experience and ability of your DOF/CEO, whatever it is, it becomes more difficult for the manager to make headway.
I've been really impressed with Hellberg at Boro, but to be fair they were top two under Rob Edwards as well when he walked out and Edwards poor at Watford, very mixed at Luton, and is doing poorly now at Wolves. (Those three clubs are various degrees of basket cases atm, but that rather proves my point).
That would suggest there's more going on at Boro than simply stumbling on a miracle working manager.
For instance, their academy has actually produced first team players in Hayden Hackney, Sol Brynn and Dael Fry rather than just talking about it like we do. Imagine if our academy had produced those three, how much better our team would look right now, immediately, with the same manager.
They've shopped some developing markets and come back with Riley McGree (Oz), Aidan Morris and Adilsson Malanda (MLS) whereas ours have so may made negligible first team impact. Maybe ours just need more time, they're all young, or maybe Middlesbrough scouted theirs rather than picking them all up because they like working with the agent?
Middlesbrough spend more money than us, of course, so that helps (think their wages were £33m last week when their accounts came out). They have a bigger, newer stadium. Bigger support in a one-club town. Greater resources.
Middlesbrough have a very experienced, hands on, present owner in Steve Gibson who knows what he's doing.
So they're set up for a manager to succeed in a way we're simply not, in my opinion.
However, Boro also burned through several managers (including several who get mentioned on here as potential alternates for us quite a lot) while achieving nothing (Warnock, Wilder, Carrick, Woodgate, Pulis, Monk) so yeh, of course, looks like they've got a really good manager now and he's making a difference. As good managers do. We had a manager here who made a difference to us, and we fell out with him.
With us, I think our squad's overrated by many of us and now entirely unfit in any case, I think the financial/FFP/PSR restrictions make it difficult to do anything here anyway, and I don't think our club is set up to succeed (absent owner, inexperienced CEO/DOF), which all makes it very hard for a manager and why I very rarely alight on blaming whoever it is at any given moment.
I liked Cifuentes because it was somebody where you could see the team went from the level it was at to a level many times higher simply because he was in charge rather than the previous guy. And that was done with literally £zero to spend. Would Hellberg do that here? Maybe. I don't really see that with Stephan, to be honest, but I don't mind him per se, I don't think the poor results are really his fault, and crucially I don't think we would appoint anybody much different if he went.
Let's say we're looking for somebody new this summer. What do you think we'd go for? Kim Hellberg MkII? It'd be a head coach, not a manager. It would be somebody willing to cede control on all manner of things from set pieces to injuries/fitness of the squad to player recruitment. It would likely be somebody from France again because that's the market Nourry knows. It'd be Julian MkII, essentially.
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Great post, and although there are a ton of reasons as you've listed... I really think the key one is the owner and how much time and energy they can give the club.
Hard to grumble (at all) at someone who gives in a week what would take me the best part of a decade to earn to just keep the lights on, but we really need a fully engaged owner.
Who is the richest QPR fan then - come on fess up! [Post edited 3 Mar 12:29]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:20 - Mar 3 with 1183 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:12 - Mar 3 by Jevlar |
Great post, and although there are a ton of reasons as you've listed... I really think the key one is the owner and how much time and energy they can give the club.
Hard to grumble (at all) at someone who gives in a week what would take me the best part of a decade to earn to just keep the lights on, but we really need a fully engaged owner.
Who is the richest QPR fan then - come on fess up! [Post edited 3 Mar 12:29]
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Couldn't agree more with both you and Clive. The owners may keep the lights on and thanks very much etc etc, bow, scrape, but I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that we can find an owner who does that AND is present. Totally involved. I know it is better the devil you know and it could go very wrong, but I am so fed up with absent owners. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:39 - Mar 3 with 1120 views | Jevlar |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:20 - Mar 3 by GaryBannister86 |
Couldn't agree more with both you and Clive. The owners may keep the lights on and thanks very much etc etc, bow, scrape, but I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that we can find an owner who does that AND is present. Totally involved. I know it is better the devil you know and it could go very wrong, but I am so fed up with absent owners. |
Me too, and it feels harsh to say it, but we change managers, co-owners, CEOs, DOFs, fitness regimes, data driven, not data driven... nothing is really working. For balance, the training ground is a good thing but even that moved at a glacial pace.
And remember that idea of a new ground... and now Oxford have one approved. There has been so much development around W12 in the past 20 years that its frankly typical bloody QPR that we've missed out on every opportunity.
We've had 12 years in the Champ now and bar a brief period of time with Warburton the idea of us being in the play-offs has turned into a myth like a cup run.
I'm fed up of us following what other clubs are doing and I think a fully focused owner might get us started on our own path.
We desperately need a new owner in charge who has the club as their sole focus otherwise, I fear we will tread water and just continue to fall backwards. [Post edited 3 Mar 12:48]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:59 - Mar 3 with 1074 views | Lblock |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:39 - Mar 3 by Jevlar |
Me too, and it feels harsh to say it, but we change managers, co-owners, CEOs, DOFs, fitness regimes, data driven, not data driven... nothing is really working. For balance, the training ground is a good thing but even that moved at a glacial pace.
And remember that idea of a new ground... and now Oxford have one approved. There has been so much development around W12 in the past 20 years that its frankly typical bloody QPR that we've missed out on every opportunity.
We've had 12 years in the Champ now and bar a brief period of time with Warburton the idea of us being in the play-offs has turned into a myth like a cup run.
I'm fed up of us following what other clubs are doing and I think a fully focused owner might get us started on our own path.
We desperately need a new owner in charge who has the club as their sole focus otherwise, I fear we will tread water and just continue to fall backwards. [Post edited 3 Mar 12:48]
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Imagine having so much money that writing off £2mill a month is something you do matter of course for something you rarely see.
Mad old world we live in. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 13:55 - Mar 3 with 984 views | Jevlar |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:59 - Mar 3 by Lblock |
Imagine having so much money that writing off £2mill a month is something you do matter of course for something you rarely see.
Mad old world we live in. |
Absolutely insane if you stop to think about it! | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:07 - Mar 3 with 857 views | Harbour |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:39 - Mar 3 by Jevlar |
Me too, and it feels harsh to say it, but we change managers, co-owners, CEOs, DOFs, fitness regimes, data driven, not data driven... nothing is really working. For balance, the training ground is a good thing but even that moved at a glacial pace.
And remember that idea of a new ground... and now Oxford have one approved. There has been so much development around W12 in the past 20 years that its frankly typical bloody QPR that we've missed out on every opportunity.
We've had 12 years in the Champ now and bar a brief period of time with Warburton the idea of us being in the play-offs has turned into a myth like a cup run.
I'm fed up of us following what other clubs are doing and I think a fully focused owner might get us started on our own path.
We desperately need a new owner in charge who has the club as their sole focus otherwise, I fear we will tread water and just continue to fall backwards. [Post edited 3 Mar 12:48]
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Agree with the sentiment but be careful what you wish for…Sheff Wed Blackpool Blackburn make you think what you could have… | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:41 - Mar 3 with 727 views | mart_Goblin |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 08:13 - Mar 3 by stowmarketrange |
I’m not sure it will turn ugly on Sunday even if we’re losing.I thought I’d be angry when the goals went in on Saturday,but I was too apathetic to feel anything.
After the Wrexham and Blackburn capitulations I just couldn’t be bothered anymore.I’m sure a lot of people felt the same judging by the reactions of the people near me.
It seems to be what we do these days. |
I hope you are right but I’m not so sure .
Got pretty restless where I was Saturday at the half time whistle .
People not happy, which reminds me.
As I stood up to stretch my legs, so did the young chap next to me .
As he did so, I noticed he was holding a Chelsea superstore Carrier bag.
I said to him “ I’d hide that if I was you cos if this gets as nasty as I think it might do , then that will be like a red rag to a bull to some ”.
He explained to me that he didn’t know that it would be a problem as he and his friends were Italian tourists and just wanted to watch an English football match . How they got tickets in the upper loft I’m not sure?
Really nice kid as it happens . He opened the bag to reveal a whole swag of QPR merch from the club shop . I didn’t ask what he got at the swamp as I don’t care 😊.
He couldn’t believe that I didn’t have a “big club” that I support .
At that point I stopped all communications 😊 [Post edited 3 Mar 17:42]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:45 - Mar 3 with 709 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:07 - Mar 3 by Harbour |
Agree with the sentiment but be careful what you wish for…Sheff Wed Blackpool Blackburn make you think what you could have… |
Of course, but I am not sure that is not a valid enough reason - being scared of the very worst - to put up with absentee owners. I don't think they should be hounded out, I would prefer them to sell to someone / people who will be present. Or even better, for them to be present. I trust them to do the right thing and either do that or sell to the right people. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:41 - Mar 3 with 614 views | kensalriser |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:45 - Mar 3 by GaryBannister86 |
Of course, but I am not sure that is not a valid enough reason - being scared of the very worst - to put up with absentee owners. I don't think they should be hounded out, I would prefer them to sell to someone / people who will be present. Or even better, for them to be present. I trust them to do the right thing and either do that or sell to the right people. |
Good luck finding the 'right people' for a club with an ageing stadium that can't be extended and surrounded by PL rivals. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:57 - Mar 3 with 567 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:41 - Mar 3 by kensalriser |
Good luck finding the 'right people' for a club with an ageing stadium that can't be extended and surrounded by PL rivals. |
Or a club that owns its own ground in West London, its own training ground and can sell out home and away when giving absolute tripe on the pitch year after year and has a latent support that always appears whenever we actually do anything.
I just don't think we are an incredibly miserable prospect in this day and age.
I do get the risks through. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:53 - Mar 3 with 498 views | kensalriser |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:57 - Mar 3 by GaryBannister86 |
Or a club that owns its own ground in West London, its own training ground and can sell out home and away when giving absolute tripe on the pitch year after year and has a latent support that always appears whenever we actually do anything.
I just don't think we are an incredibly miserable prospect in this day and age.
I do get the risks through. |
There are always clubs available for sale at the right price and most of them will be more attractive than QPR. We have no realistic prospect of expansion, plenty of others do - including Wrexham, for instance. | |
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