| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread 12:02 - Nov 6 with 49509 views | Spaceman_P |
After last night's efforts... I'm gonna be blunt
Qpr 1 Sheffield Utd 1.
I hope this is wrong but I'm not fuelled with optimism
We need to sharpen up else this will be a cut throat time for us.
Total rehaul needed on Saturday.
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:20 - Nov 8 with 2488 views | dutch |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 17:36 - Nov 8 by Rangersw12 |
I suppose it's about standards and expeditions
With this squad and how crap the championship is we should be a lot higher
Look at the current top 6 awful teams yet here we patting ourselves on the back for a nil nil draw against a terrible Sheffield United team
Nothing will change unless we get standards |
It's just the hyperbole on here, win or lose, or even draw and posters go so far over the top. This is a very long way from the worst ever Ranger's side and even further from the best. I'm fed up with mid table mediocrity too, but this hyper-exaggeration of highs and lows doesn't help. We were OK today nothing more, we got a draw, not the end of the world. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:22 - Nov 8 with 2442 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 17:36 - Nov 8 by Rangersw12 |
I suppose it's about standards and expeditions
With this squad and how crap the championship is we should be a lot higher
Look at the current top 6 awful teams yet here we patting ourselves on the back for a nil nil draw against a terrible Sheffield United team
Nothing will change unless we get standards |
I agree with you.
Not unhappy with the draw in itself, but that's just because we had to avoid losing at all costs thanks to the previous losing run. The bar was set low for today.
But our team is unfit, was done after 70 minutes (even allowing for all the rotation and subs) and we got a draw today thanks to a free-transfer 37-year old who hadn't played in eighteen months. They're not good signs. |  |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:34 - Nov 8 with 2312 views | jtuck |
'You make your own luck in this game'. Hard fought point away to a team in just as crap form as Rangers has to be a net positive. Charity Park Rangers did not give anything away for free. Stephan deserves praise (won't get that from many on here) for circling the wagons and getting all the pre-game calls right. 1) drop liability goalkeeper TICK, 2) keep Mbengue in team TICK, 3) shift Dunne to CB TICK, 4) recall Steve Cook TICK, 5) reward a player in form with start in Dembele who finished Southampton debacle so well TICK, 6) follow a game plan where we actually look dangerous in attack as compared to limp display at Derby TICK, 7) get your most skilful players to track back to protect wings TICK.
Far from ideal or perfect but stubborn and bloody-minded draw showing coach is learning lessons.
Dave Barton on the always excellent Hoops and Dreams preview show on YouTube predicted a loss, and said he would be delighted with a draw. So happy journey back to DB and the rest of 1500 traveling fans. | |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:34 - Nov 8 with 2302 views | StreathamRanger |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:20 - Nov 8 by dutch |
It's just the hyperbole on here, win or lose, or even draw and posters go so far over the top. This is a very long way from the worst ever Ranger's side and even further from the best. I'm fed up with mid table mediocrity too, but this hyper-exaggeration of highs and lows doesn't help. We were OK today nothing more, we got a draw, not the end of the world. |
Very much agree with this. The usual response from some posters is that any team we beat were rubbish and any team we lose to were rubbish and there for the taking. Yes, Sheffield United have been on a bad run but so have we so a draw seems a good result to me as it stops the rot. I'd be surprised if Sheffield United were still in the bottom half come the end of the season.
It's not the strongest division this year but we're still operating on a bottom half budget and we're still closer in terms of points to the top 6 than we are to the bottom 3.
I came away from Southampton game very down as we were our own worst enemy. What I saw of the stream today showed a team that worked hard for each other and managed to stay focused for the full 90 minutes. Credit to Sam Field who played well and may well end up convincing the manager to give him a go again alongside Madsen. | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:54 - Nov 8 with 2093 views | Rangersw12 |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:20 - Nov 8 by dutch |
It's just the hyperbole on here, win or lose, or even draw and posters go so far over the top. This is a very long way from the worst ever Ranger's side and even further from the best. I'm fed up with mid table mediocrity too, but this hyper-exaggeration of highs and lows doesn't help. We were OK today nothing more, we got a draw, not the end of the world. |
No a point today isn't the end of the world but christ as a fan base we should be expecting better
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is sick to death of this boom or bust cycles that we go on . [Post edited 8 Nov 19:01]
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:58 - Nov 8 with 2052 views | davman |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 16:20 - Nov 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Chair's having a cracking game imo. |
I always knew you were the voice of reason in the bunch of muppets that frequent this board.
Our best player bar none. |  |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 19:05 - Nov 8 with 1984 views | StreathamRanger |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:54 - Nov 8 by Rangersw12 |
No a point today isn't the end of the world but christ as a fan base we should be expecting better
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is sick to death of this boom or bust cycles that we go on . [Post edited 8 Nov 19:01]
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Most sources I can find say we're somewhere between 15th and 20th in terms of wage bill. Why should we be expecting so much more from these players? Most of them had never played championship football before signing for us. | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 19:50 - Nov 8 with 1724 views | Gus_iom |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 16:58 - Nov 8 by sdm1508 |
Every post you have made is having a go at Chair. |
I think qpr Pro max may drive a lorry in Belgium | |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:08 - Nov 8 with 1612 views | Gus_iom |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:22 - Nov 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree with you.
Not unhappy with the draw in itself, but that's just because we had to avoid losing at all costs thanks to the previous losing run. The bar was set low for today.
But our team is unfit, was done after 70 minutes (even allowing for all the rotation and subs) and we got a draw today thanks to a free-transfer 37-year old who hadn't played in eighteen months. They're not good signs. |
'Out team is unfit'. Absolutely. Squad rotated and still look out on their feet for the last 15 minutes. I think there is a problem within the coaching department that needs addressing. It's unacceptable.
Didn't like Frey or Vale coming on today. Players tiring, game getting stretched, I wanted more pace.
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:16 - Nov 8 with 1573 views | izlingtonhoop |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:08 - Nov 8 by Gus_iom |
'Out team is unfit'. Absolutely. Squad rotated and still look out on their feet for the last 15 minutes. I think there is a problem within the coaching department that needs addressing. It's unacceptable.
Didn't like Frey or Vale coming on today. Players tiring, game getting stretched, I wanted more pace.
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Lady 15 minutes.
Like the slow dances at the end...?
Bloody auto correct... |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:17 - Nov 8 with 1567 views | Match82 |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 19:05 - Nov 8 by StreathamRanger |
Most sources I can find say we're somewhere between 15th and 20th in terms of wage bill. Why should we be expecting so much more from these players? Most of them had never played championship football before signing for us. |
I also read the other day that if you look at all time average attendance, which for the sake of things, shows "how big" of a club we are historically, we're 37th. For those mathematicians among you, that puts us...17th in the championship.
We're a mid level championship side, funded like a mid level championship side, performing like a mid level championship side and we're currently sitting in the middle of the championship. It's who we are. We couldn't be parring this any harder if we tried.
Should we hope and push for more? Yes of course. But "a new low point", not for me. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:23 - Nov 8 with 1526 views | themodfather |
bramall lane is not a bad place for us, a point away seems ok. the tinkering never ends but that is modern football.
this is a mad league, teams below us are now winning and we cannot get sucked into that mire. we stopped the rot and must believe the wins are coming. | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:30 - Nov 8 with 1485 views | Spaceman_P |
After thinking about our season so far.
I think three matches have been crucial in us shooting ourselves in the leg.
Sheffield Wednesday and Oxford draws and the Derby loss.
Charity Park Rangers were playing those games.
Personally I think maybe our problem is maybe an ego one.... hence all the changes Julian seems like a people pleaser and can imagine him playing Frey for example just not to get aggro week in week out.
I think a bunch of our players need to realise they just aren't that good at championship level. I think Kone might be realising this now too sadly. [Post edited 8 Nov 20:32]
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:31 - Nov 8 with 1475 views | plasmahoop |
I wasn't there, but a point at Sheffield utd isn't bad. Our previous results have been poor, but in isolation it's a decent point. Even for a higher up team it wouldn't be bad. Ok, we've got to follow up on it, but it's not bad | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:38 - Nov 8 with 1433 views | DieByYourSide |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 18:34 - Nov 8 by jtuck |
'You make your own luck in this game'. Hard fought point away to a team in just as crap form as Rangers has to be a net positive. Charity Park Rangers did not give anything away for free. Stephan deserves praise (won't get that from many on here) for circling the wagons and getting all the pre-game calls right. 1) drop liability goalkeeper TICK, 2) keep Mbengue in team TICK, 3) shift Dunne to CB TICK, 4) recall Steve Cook TICK, 5) reward a player in form with start in Dembele who finished Southampton debacle so well TICK, 6) follow a game plan where we actually look dangerous in attack as compared to limp display at Derby TICK, 7) get your most skilful players to track back to protect wings TICK.
Far from ideal or perfect but stubborn and bloody-minded draw showing coach is learning lessons.
Dave Barton on the always excellent Hoops and Dreams preview show on YouTube predicted a loss, and said he would be delighted with a draw. So happy journey back to DB and the rest of 1500 traveling fans. |
Dembele is on form? | |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:42 - Nov 8 with 1401 views | 222gers |
When shove comes to push, I thought today was pretty much OK. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:43 - Nov 8 with 1393 views | Northernr |
A point, rot stopped etc. But I’m amazed, frankly, to hear so much positivity around that.
Sheff Utd are gash. I don’t know if it came over enough on the stream, how bad they were, how dead the ground was. How much they were there for the taking.
To see us give up our ambition and settle in for a point after an hour was soul destroying.
Stephan himself says that oh the first hour it’s two points dropped but on the final 30 it’s one gained - well, is that not on him? Didn’t make a sub until 70. Brought fcking Frey on again while Saito and Smyth hung round with us. What are we defending here? A point to keep us 16th?
I thought that was dire today. A lot of people whose opinion I trust in the away end felt the same. And then literally on the first peep of the final whistle you’ve got the same social media influencers out and about telling you what a terrific result that was. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:47 - Nov 8 with 1370 views | plasmahoop |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:43 - Nov 8 by Northernr |
A point, rot stopped etc. But I’m amazed, frankly, to hear so much positivity around that.
Sheff Utd are gash. I don’t know if it came over enough on the stream, how bad they were, how dead the ground was. How much they were there for the taking.
To see us give up our ambition and settle in for a point after an hour was soul destroying.
Stephan himself says that oh the first hour it’s two points dropped but on the final 30 it’s one gained - well, is that not on him? Didn’t make a sub until 70. Brought fcking Frey on again while Saito and Smyth hung round with us. What are we defending here? A point to keep us 16th?
I thought that was dire today. A lot of people whose opinion I trust in the away end felt the same. And then literally on the first peep of the final whistle you’ve got the same social media influencers out and about telling you what a terrific result that was. |
Well as I wasn't at the game, on the face of it , it looks like a decent point. Maybe a lot of these social media influencers also weren't at the game! | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:57 - Nov 8 with 1332 views | StreathamRanger |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:43 - Nov 8 by Northernr |
A point, rot stopped etc. But I’m amazed, frankly, to hear so much positivity around that.
Sheff Utd are gash. I don’t know if it came over enough on the stream, how bad they were, how dead the ground was. How much they were there for the taking.
To see us give up our ambition and settle in for a point after an hour was soul destroying.
Stephan himself says that oh the first hour it’s two points dropped but on the final 30 it’s one gained - well, is that not on him? Didn’t make a sub until 70. Brought fcking Frey on again while Saito and Smyth hung round with us. What are we defending here? A point to keep us 16th?
I thought that was dire today. A lot of people whose opinion I trust in the away end felt the same. And then literally on the first peep of the final whistle you’ve got the same social media influencers out and about telling you what a terrific result that was. |
So much football is dire and I include the premier league in that. I'm amazed by those that find the energy to go week in week out home and away. I've found having a season ticket the last couple of years more than enough. I need those away weekends to get away from it for a week. Play a bit of football, do something else.
From that perspective, I'm happy with the point gained today.
If I'd got up early travelled at great expense up to Sheffield and watched a game that maybe we could have won if we'd been a bit braver then sure I can also understand why you'd be really frustrated.
We all see things from a different point of view. | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:07 - Nov 8 with 1263 views | Lblock |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:43 - Nov 8 by Northernr |
A point, rot stopped etc. But I’m amazed, frankly, to hear so much positivity around that.
Sheff Utd are gash. I don’t know if it came over enough on the stream, how bad they were, how dead the ground was. How much they were there for the taking.
To see us give up our ambition and settle in for a point after an hour was soul destroying.
Stephan himself says that oh the first hour it’s two points dropped but on the final 30 it’s one gained - well, is that not on him? Didn’t make a sub until 70. Brought fcking Frey on again while Saito and Smyth hung round with us. What are we defending here? A point to keep us 16th?
I thought that was dire today. A lot of people whose opinion I trust in the away end felt the same. And then literally on the first peep of the final whistle you’ve got the same social media influencers out and about telling you what a terrific result that was. |
Bang on!
Exactly how I saw it, heard it and feel about it. |  |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:14 - Nov 8 with 1240 views | VancouverHoop |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 20:43 - Nov 8 by Northernr |
A point, rot stopped etc. But I’m amazed, frankly, to hear so much positivity around that.
Sheff Utd are gash. I don’t know if it came over enough on the stream, how bad they were, how dead the ground was. How much they were there for the taking.
To see us give up our ambition and settle in for a point after an hour was soul destroying.
Stephan himself says that oh the first hour it’s two points dropped but on the final 30 it’s one gained - well, is that not on him? Didn’t make a sub until 70. Brought fcking Frey on again while Saito and Smyth hung round with us. What are we defending here? A point to keep us 16th?
I thought that was dire today. A lot of people whose opinion I trust in the away end felt the same. And then literally on the first peep of the final whistle you’ve got the same social media influencers out and about telling you what a terrific result that was. |
When both teams are afraid of losing, rather than wanting to win, that's the type of game you're likely to get. Especially with another off-week coming up to stew about it. | | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:16 - Nov 8 with 1231 views | Hunterhoop |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:07 - Nov 8 by Lblock |
Bang on!
Exactly how I saw it, heard it and feel about it. |
Agree.
How is a 0-0 to a team in the bottom 3 ever a “good” result? It’s fair to see it as “okay”, “not the worst”, “meh”, but “decent” or “good”…how low have our standards fallen?
16th might be parring the course for our budget, but Millwall and Preston have the same or smaller budget and they’re punching up there. Luton last year, others in years gone by. Why can we not punch above our weight? And, remember, we’ve spent £18m in the last 16 months on transfer fees, miles more than in previous years. TV money and the second batch of Eze money enabled it. Should we not expect some progress? Cifuentes achieved better than this with a far far weaker squad, which cost less to run, and certainly had less transfer money on it.
Standards. Let’s have some. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:39 - Nov 8 with 1102 views | ted_hendrix |
If you'd offered me 0-0 before kick off I'd have said yes please. |  |
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| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:47 - Nov 8 with 1060 views | Mr_Beef |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:39 - Nov 8 by ted_hendrix |
If you'd offered me 0-0 before kick off I'd have said yes please. |
Not intended as a criticism of you, Ted, but if after 11 years in this division, the Eze money now largely spent, and a not in considerable amount gone on transfers over the last 18 months, if after all of that we're happy with a 0-0 draw at a team who have lost all but one of their home games this season, having also failed to win at Sheffield Wednesday and at home to Oxford, then I'd take that as a pretty sad indication of the level of ambition at the club these days.
And that's not a criticism of you at all, the manager, and I guess many at the club, seem happy with it too. |  | | |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 21:48 - Nov 8 with 1050 views | gazza1 |
| Queens Park Razors hopefully taking the edge off. Sheff Utd vs QPR match thread on 17:57 - Nov 8 by corse |
Ok. As I said interesting. A bit of mix up at the right. Added pace there and that did gave Dembele changes. We will see this used again.
Hamer very good, Field good, Dembele good, Burrell good, Dunne good. The rest were...meh...
But I still wouldnt start with Chair. As a sub yes.
And cannot see any point why Frey is still in the team. Even if Kolli is smoked out it doesnt give any right to put Frey on the pitch.
Happy with a point. Both team had changes though SU was closer. [Post edited 8 Nov 17:59]
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How do you think Madsen played??....you did not mention him!! | | | |
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