| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 10:01 - May 6 with 3095 views | derbyhoop |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 06:28 - May 6 by numptydumpty |
Nardi could have improved his game, this season. He was decent last season.
Walsh started from a low level of performance and stayed there all season. He is never going to be sold for much more than a million, so that reason for playing him consistently doesn't add up either. Even, if he is a level above in training, its not translating in game time.
Shockingly bad treatment of Paul Nardi, by the club for me. Almost, as if Joe Walsh has some "Epstein" type dirt on the QPR hierarchy that none of the public are aware of !!!
We will see if they have learnt lessons but for me, i am expecting another mediocre season of Walsh in goal ahead. Its not fair on him either tbf. Whatever the real reasons, we will never know. But its all a bit twilight zone for me.
Weird and a total own goal by the club on all levels !!
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By the 2nd half of last season oppositions had realised that Nardi never came off his line. It was a fundamental weakness and they began to exploit it. At 31 his approach was so well embedded that no GK Coach was going to rectify it.
Can Walsh improve? I think he has over the course of the season.
He's quick off his line, more commanding (cf Nardi) around the 6 yd box, spreads himself well (Leif Davis can testify to that), decent with both feet. Some heart in mouth moments and I'm not sure if he yells enough at the defenders in front of him. The stats say he was one of the worst in the Championship. How much of that is skewed by the Coventry debacle?. if he is replaced as #1 what is he going to want? I can't see a 23 yo with 30+ starts in the Championship settling for warming the bench. |  |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:04 - May 6 with 3030 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Nice interview.
Some questions though...
- Is he just a thoroughly nice guy?
- Is he suffering Stockholm syndrome?
- Have they incentivised him to do this?
- Are the doubters all wrong and Nourry handles departures very well actually? |  | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:29 - May 6 with 2895 views | TheChef |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:04 - May 6 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Nice interview.
Some questions though...
- Is he just a thoroughly nice guy?
- Is he suffering Stockholm syndrome?
- Have they incentivised him to do this?
- Are the doubters all wrong and Nourry handles departures very well actually? |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:32 - May 6 with 2885 views | 1JD |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 08:17 - May 6 by silky |
This this this this!!!!!!
It's exactly how I feel. QPR need to do better on a human level. I personally think he's been treated so bad by QPR.
I'm amazed Nardi did an exit interview. I'm sure he loves the fans but I'm sure he's doesn't care too much about the people running the club.
CN needs to better his people skills. |
It’s not people skills. It’s about fundamentally being a decent person, a good human being. The way people treat others is a direct reflection of their own character. [Post edited 6 May 10:33]
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:40 - May 6 with 2845 views | mart_Goblin |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 09:23 - May 6 by wombat |
it was very awkward to watch at the cheshunt semi final when furlong walked in and had to pass nourry willims and andy impey sat alongside us , furlong was there to watch his son playing for cheshunt , impey shouted out to furlong and he stopped he had no rerl choice not to and williams and noirry both sort of jumped on him sort of shook hands but it didnt look atall comftable and felt sorry for furlong having to go through it . with whats rumoured to have happened before |
Dismissed halfway through his breakfast .
Tremendous
To paraphrase Hunter, it’s an incestuous sport . People talk… a lot .
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:46 - May 6 with 2811 views | R_from_afar |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 08:17 - May 6 by silky |
This this this this!!!!!!
It's exactly how I feel. QPR need to do better on a human level. I personally think he's been treated so bad by QPR.
I'm amazed Nardi did an exit interview. I'm sure he loves the fans but I'm sure he's doesn't care too much about the people running the club.
CN needs to better his people skills. |
"CN needs to better his people skills".
Indeed, and the standard of his communications with the fans too. It's woeful.
I don't want Hoos to leave, I want him alert and paying attention to this stuff, ready to step in and help Nourry get it right, or usher him out of the door if he refuses to change. |  |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 12:18 - May 6 with 2599 views | Mick_S |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:17 - May 6 with 2417 views | wombat |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 10:46 - May 6 by R_from_afar |
"CN needs to better his people skills".
Indeed, and the standard of his communications with the fans too. It's woeful.
I don't want Hoos to leave, I want him alert and paying attention to this stuff, ready to step in and help Nourry get it right, or usher him out of the door if he refuses to change. |
Why would hoos do all of the above ? he was partly responsible for looking at his cv prob took hum under five mins to read both pages lets be honest. and say yep hes perfectr for the job its all urs boy wonder , its been said many times that nourry has little to no people skills and has been evident since he arrived , when it comes to connecting to fans hes got a long way to go , the few timee ive met him he dosnt seem confident being around people,m friend of mine and myself did the ground tour with charlie austin, excellent charlie was on top form as usual and we came out from the dressing rooms to the main reception area for boxes on match days , whos stuck in the corner just watching people pass nouirry , didnt say hi im christian how was the tour nothing atall it came across weird then and still does now , was only 15 to 20 of us so wouldnt have taken more than ten mins for a quck hi etc he just sat there which of course is his choice to do , but as the face of the club and relativly new to it surely you would be trying to build bridges with those paying my wages ? Hoos is just a figure head these days with little to no say in what is going on at pitch level im sorry to say . |  |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:19 - May 6 with 2422 views | Superhoops2808 |
Amazing that a post where we say goodbye to 3 players managed to get turned into another thread about Nourry/Williams and how poor they are by certain posters here. And its always the same ones too
Just becomes weary... No doubt we will have it all through the break before the start of the season. |  | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:35 - May 6 with 2358 views | TheChef |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:17 - May 6 by wombat |
Why would hoos do all of the above ? he was partly responsible for looking at his cv prob took hum under five mins to read both pages lets be honest. and say yep hes perfectr for the job its all urs boy wonder , its been said many times that nourry has little to no people skills and has been evident since he arrived , when it comes to connecting to fans hes got a long way to go , the few timee ive met him he dosnt seem confident being around people,m friend of mine and myself did the ground tour with charlie austin, excellent charlie was on top form as usual and we came out from the dressing rooms to the main reception area for boxes on match days , whos stuck in the corner just watching people pass nouirry , didnt say hi im christian how was the tour nothing atall it came across weird then and still does now , was only 15 to 20 of us so wouldnt have taken more than ten mins for a quck hi etc he just sat there which of course is his choice to do , but as the face of the club and relativly new to it surely you would be trying to build bridges with those paying my wages ? Hoos is just a figure head these days with little to no say in what is going on at pitch level im sorry to say . |
I think Hoos is still sufficiently involved - and anyway if he did appoint Nourry, like any good boss if he realises he's made a mistake hiring him, then he'll rectify it.
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:35 - May 6 with 2365 views | TK1 |
I thought it was a good and sincere interview and, judging from Nardi, I imagine he may well have asked to do it rather than being press ganged.
The Walsh questions...I didn't find it that odd. They were just trying to underline the collegiate spirit among keepers. They all appear good lads. I bet that's not always the case. (*cough* Picken *cough*)
But the takeaway from the Walsh questions is, I think, that he's staying and I imagine going to be number one, or vying for that with Cooper. They'll probably enlist a senior keeper to challenge (Dieng?) but I don't believe they'll give up on him yet. That felt clear from the questioning.
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:37 - May 6 with 2343 views | TheChef |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:35 - May 6 by TK1 |
I thought it was a good and sincere interview and, judging from Nardi, I imagine he may well have asked to do it rather than being press ganged.
The Walsh questions...I didn't find it that odd. They were just trying to underline the collegiate spirit among keepers. They all appear good lads. I bet that's not always the case. (*cough* Picken *cough*)
But the takeaway from the Walsh questions is, I think, that he's staying and I imagine going to be number one, or vying for that with Cooper. They'll probably enlist a senior keeper to challenge (Dieng?) but I don't believe they'll give up on him yet. That felt clear from the questioning.
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Other goalkeepers are available (not just ones who played for QPR before...). | |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:41 - May 6 with 2317 views | TK1 |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:37 - May 6 by TheChef |
Other goalkeepers are available (not just ones who played for QPR before...). |
I meant a Dieng-age keeper. Though the club definitely did talk to him last season to perform the Nardi/Hamer role, which is the one up for grabs.
Walsh and Cooper are both contracted next season so would need to be sold to be replaced by a first choice. We'll be signing a second or third choice. [Post edited 6 May 13:42]
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 14:05 - May 6 with 2212 views | Myke |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 10:01 - May 6 by derbyhoop |
By the 2nd half of last season oppositions had realised that Nardi never came off his line. It was a fundamental weakness and they began to exploit it. At 31 his approach was so well embedded that no GK Coach was going to rectify it.
Can Walsh improve? I think he has over the course of the season.
He's quick off his line, more commanding (cf Nardi) around the 6 yd box, spreads himself well (Leif Davis can testify to that), decent with both feet. Some heart in mouth moments and I'm not sure if he yells enough at the defenders in front of him. The stats say he was one of the worst in the Championship. How much of that is skewed by the Coventry debacle?. if he is replaced as #1 what is he going to want? I can't see a 23 yo with 30+ starts in the Championship settling for warming the bench. |
All of this. Nandi was never going to improve. I would say he was treated ‘strangely’ rather than ‘shabbily’ I say this because he wasn’t singled out for poor treatment. Hamer, the Brazilian lad, Kolli to name but three, went from starting a game to not making the match day squad in the following game, at various times in the season. I think Nardi got ‘found out’ in the first series of games last season (24/25) and by the return fixtures he was struggling. When he played this season his stats were poor, although I have sympathy for suddenly being parachuted into a game. I fully expect Walsh to be first choice next season, or what was the point of this season? If not, he will surely leave. | | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:06 - May 6 with 2212 views | gazza1 |
1 - Nardi, I did not see loads of grief aimed his way last season and imho is no worse than Walsh.
2 - Hayden, as I said in another post, he was 'bang average' last season but many wanted the Club to resign him, they got their way but was pretty poor this season and a very poor signing indeed. Re his wages, it would not, or I have never seen it before, seen players boasting, or even talking about what they are earning so it would not be an issue.
3 - Hamer, strange signing considering his age, etc, etc.......sign him for a month if we were struggling with injuries but to keep him for so long is a waste of money and not following our principles within the Club re 'Development'.
No issues with any of the departures. | | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:12 - May 6 with 2192 views | kensalriser |
One keeper related stat I'd like to see is the total number of shots on goal against us compared to the rest of the division. That would tell us how relatively good or bad the outfield team is at protecting the keeper. My guess is the number will be among the highest. |  |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:45 - May 6 with 2110 views | Steiner |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:12 - May 6 by kensalriser |
One keeper related stat I'd like to see is the total number of shots on goal against us compared to the rest of the division. That would tell us how relatively good or bad the outfield team is at protecting the keeper. My guess is the number will be among the highest. |
For the xG afficonados, we had an xG conceded of 57.4 (11th) and a total conceded of 73 (23rd).
The problem is unequivocally in between the sticks. | | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:45 - May 6 with 2103 views | LazyFan |
We have some very older experienced Champions players with apperances in the region of:
Chair - 240+ 28Y
Field - 200+ 27Y
Dunne - 190+ 28Y
Smyth - 130+ 28Y
So, experience wise we just need a GK for the spine of the team.
And of course a LB and box to box DMC.
4 (GK, GK, CD and DMC) out and 3 needed in (GK, LB and DMC).
Possible sales in assests of:
Madsen
Varane
Kolli
Field
LLoyd
Whereby we would only need to replace Madsen and Varane if sold.
We got lucky, four of our forwards came good. Burrell, Kone, Bennie and Kolli. We loaned out LLoyd and bought in another for the future who did not play yet. So, forwards wise we have refreshed that from the season before.
Just need ... GK, LB and box-to-box DMC |  |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 16:02 - May 6 with 1943 views | wombat |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:19 - May 6 by Superhoops2808 |
Amazing that a post where we say goodbye to 3 players managed to get turned into another thread about Nourry/Williams and how poor they are by certain posters here. And its always the same ones too
Just becomes weary... No doubt we will have it all through the break before the start of the season. |
you always like all of us have the option of not reading messages from so called certain posted i suppose . try it its refreshing | |
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 16:18 - May 6 with 1875 views | Ad99 |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 11:04 - May 5 by nix |
Nardi had one of the worst save percentages in the Championship last season - around 65%. The best keepers had over 75% and James Trafford had 84%! The only GK playing over 30 matches last season who had a worse save percentage was James Beadle. It’s true Nardi did have a quite high number of saves to make butt others also did who had a better save percentage. With that plus the weakness in claiming crosses it’s hard to argue for renewing his contract.
The thing is I think when you have a not great keeper you maybe don’t notice the goals they fail to prevent by not claiming balls in the six yard box or making high claims or bog standard saves. And then you notice how many saves or claims the other keeper makes and you think maybe ours just isn’t good enough. How often do I think the oppo GK has had a stormer but maybe that’s just normal…. |
Good point here. It mystifies me why the coaching staff are not identifying Joe's lack of presence in the Pen. box as a vulnerability. Can appreciate that it's never an easy judgement call to come off the line...but it really feels that many of the goals this season could have been prevented if Walsh 'bossed' his domain a bit better. | | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 16:35 - May 6 with 1817 views | kensalriser |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 14:45 - May 6 by Steiner |
For the xG afficonados, we had an xG conceded of 57.4 (11th) and a total conceded of 73 (23rd).
The problem is unequivocally in between the sticks. |
I'm something of an xG sceptic but disregarding that, I don't think you can infer that from one metric.
However, shots against are easy enough to find and we didn't do as badly as I thought - 15th, because of course. Shots against on target, 12th. Set against the goals conceded position (23rd) that definitely starts to look like a keeper problem.
Did I imagine all those times our midfield did a Marie Celeste? [Post edited 6 May 16:36]
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 17:54 - May 6 with 1633 views | numptydumpty |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 13:19 - May 6 by Superhoops2808 |
Amazing that a post where we say goodbye to 3 players managed to get turned into another thread about Nourry/Williams and how poor they are by certain posters here. And its always the same ones too
Just becomes weary... No doubt we will have it all through the break before the start of the season. |
Unsure if your accusations of Nourry haters includes myself, Superhoops2808.
Myself, there are many things the new hierarchy has done well, but equally many that are not so good. Overall, we are just about in the positive for me with Nourry and his team.
i personally was commenting on this thread my views with regards to Nardi, so relevant i thought to the thread and feel he has been poorly treated by the club also. This train wreck of an exit interview, also for me was a bad PR own goal.
So felt was relevant to this particular thread ie the hierarchies very poor PR led stuff IMO and the comms teams weird non statements and non interviews and masking of injuries and times out and false returning from injuries timescales and information. It could be done so much better than it is, as they have a habit of foot in mouth announcements that attempt to appease the fans and do the exact opposite. And again thats just my view of what i see. And this situation with Nardi highlights this. Again just an opinion.
Obviously, its fine for others to have a different take on it.
Beige as opposed to Chestnut, Cream as opposed to White !!!!!
We all just wish for a decent and more succesful club, but we are allowed to have our own independent viewpoints of how we get there and what we feel gets us there and point out shortcomings as we see fit. [Post edited 6 May 18:02]
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 18:09 - May 6 with 1602 views | stevenagehoop |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 10:01 - May 6 by derbyhoop |
By the 2nd half of last season oppositions had realised that Nardi never came off his line. It was a fundamental weakness and they began to exploit it. At 31 his approach was so well embedded that no GK Coach was going to rectify it.
Can Walsh improve? I think he has over the course of the season.
He's quick off his line, more commanding (cf Nardi) around the 6 yd box, spreads himself well (Leif Davis can testify to that), decent with both feet. Some heart in mouth moments and I'm not sure if he yells enough at the defenders in front of him. The stats say he was one of the worst in the Championship. How much of that is skewed by the Coventry debacle?. if he is replaced as #1 what is he going to want? I can't see a 23 yo with 30+ starts in the Championship settling for warming the bench. |
At the moment he is not commanding enough, does not organise his defence as a goalkeeper should parries/fumbles balls that he should hold and his distribution is not great.
He really should have gone out on loan to gain the necessary experience.
His being put in the number one slot before he is ready is not his fault but he does not inspire confidence with his performances.
Goalkeepers mature later than most outfield positions and you have to be something special to shine when young and unfortunately he is not. Nourry needs to accept that and bite the bullet and bring in an experienced keeper - it is a key position especially in the championship - it’s nothing against Walsh but you can’t hide between the sticks or be covered by others like outfield players can be. [Post edited 6 May 18:12]
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| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 19:23 - May 6 with 1467 views | nix |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs... on 16:35 - May 6 by kensalriser |
I'm something of an xG sceptic but disregarding that, I don't think you can infer that from one metric.
However, shots against are easy enough to find and we didn't do as badly as I thought - 15th, because of course. Shots against on target, 12th. Set against the goals conceded position (23rd) that definitely starts to look like a keeper problem.
Did I imagine all those times our midfield did a Marie Celeste? [Post edited 6 May 16:36]
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At times it did look like the parting of the Red Sea when teams ran at us or passed incisively.: maybe not just the midfield but also the wingers weren’t always doing their jobs. I did think it always made a difference when Smyth was on because he would make it more difficult for the oppo attack and just be a nuisance and slow them down.
It made a difference with the quality of the shots our keepers faced from long distance. Seemingly more average players can score when not pressed or rushed but much harder to take that shot under pressure and quickly. |  | | |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 20:15 - May 6 with 1367 views | flynnbo |
| Club confirm Hamer, Nardi, Hayden departs on 18:09 - May 6 by stevenagehoop |
At the moment he is not commanding enough, does not organise his defence as a goalkeeper should parries/fumbles balls that he should hold and his distribution is not great.
He really should have gone out on loan to gain the necessary experience.
His being put in the number one slot before he is ready is not his fault but he does not inspire confidence with his performances.
Goalkeepers mature later than most outfield positions and you have to be something special to shine when young and unfortunately he is not. Nourry needs to accept that and bite the bullet and bring in an experienced keeper - it is a key position especially in the championship - it’s nothing against Walsh but you can’t hide between the sticks or be covered by others like outfield players can be. [Post edited 6 May 18:12]
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Phil Parkes signed for us in June 1970 aged 19 and made his debut in August 1970 at the age of 20. Just saying. [Post edited 6 May 20:16]
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