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why do we get so many? is it basic unfitness? poor training? last season the pitch didn't help but seems ok this time. why do we sign so many will dodgy fitness records? and are our medicals doing their job? chair was out for near all of last season and out already . if we get a fit squad we could have a real go at a top 8.
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QPR and injuries on 22:27 - Sep 10 with 2740 views
I think it’s the communication strategy of our injuries that piss so many of us off. Yes we know players get injured and yes we know all clubs think they are the worst affected but if the club didn’t lie or ignore the injuries then I don’t think it would be as big of an issue.
Also, I assume we don’t release the info to give us an advantage over the opposition, but that hasn’t worked in any games ever. We have never won due to someone like Saito being out for 2 weeks rather than 3!
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QPR and injuries on 22:29 - Sep 10 with 2718 views
I think it’s the communication strategy of our injuries that piss so many of us off. Yes we know players get injured and yes we know all clubs think they are the worst affected but if the club didn’t lie or ignore the injuries then I don’t think it would be as big of an issue.
Also, I assume we don’t release the info to give us an advantage over the opposition, but that hasn’t worked in any games ever. We have never won due to someone like Saito being out for 2 weeks rather than 3!
Nobody in the Championship is losing any sleep over whether Koki Saito can play against them or not.
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QPR and injuries on 23:00 - Sep 10 with 2581 views
This is what ChatGPT had to say about it when asked if QPR get.more player injuries than other football clubs -
I think there is enough evidence now to say that Queens Park Rangers F.C. have had a genuine recurring injury-availability problem, rather than it merely feeling that way as a QPR supporter. What is much harder to establish is that QPR definitively suffer more injuries than every other Championship club, because there isn't a good publicly available, standardised league-wide dataset measuring injury-days lost on the same basis. What makes me think there is a QPR-specific issue is the persistence across different managers. Back in 2023, Gareth Ainsworth explicitly said Rangers had lost “too many key players, too many times over too many seasons” and that the club needed to investigate the recurring problem. � Last season the problem was again significant enough that Julien Stéphan talked about having to balance training load and intensity because QPR simply couldn't afford another attacking injury. � And in May he specifically identified keeping players available throughout the season as something QPR needed to improve. � West London Sport West London Sport QPR What's striking is that it's happening again already in 2026/27. Chair and Richard Kone were injured against Middlesbrough five days ago; then against Charlton yesterday QPR lost Tariq Lamptey and Jimmy Dunne. West London Sport describes Rangers as having been “plagued by injuries in the past couple of seasons.” � West London Sport +1 There probably isn't one cause. I think it's a combination of squad construction, individual injury histories, workload and bad luck. QPR have repeatedly relied heavily upon players who already have substantial injury histories. Chair, for example, was restricted to only 15 appearances last season and has previously had back, knee and hamstring problems. � Jake Clarke-Salter is an even more extreme example: the current injury record has him having missed a huge number of matches since his hip problem began in January 2025. � Lamptey has also only recently returned from a long-term knee injury. � Yahoo Sports +1 Transfermarkt West London Sport There is then a vicious-circle effect. Injuries reduce the number of available players → the remaining first-choice players have to play more → coaches have fewer opportunities to rotate → fatigue/load increases → injury risk can increase. Stéphan's comments about having to carefully balance training intensity are consistent with exactly that problem. � West London Sport Interestingly, QPR clearly have tried to address it. They invested in sports science and medical provision, and in 2021/22 used the Zone7 injury-risk system. Zone7's own case study reported a 33% reduction in injuries per game and a 35% reduction in injury-days lost per game compared with the previous season. So this isn't simply a club that has ignored sports science. � Zone7 That makes me reluctant to say “QPR's medical department is poor.” We simply don't have the evidence for that. Some of the injuries are plainly unavoidable — Burrell's injury last season, for example, was a contact injury caused by landing awkwardly rather than a muscle-load problem. � BBC But I do think there's a more interesting question behind yours: does QPR's recruitment strategy leave them with an unusually injury-prone squad? My suspicion is that this may explain more of it than the medical department does.
We didn't sign Chair knowing he has a poor injury record.
Chair was here long before Williams and Nourry. In fact he is not far off becoming the 22nd player to reach 300 appearances for us.
It might just be coincidence but Chair's injuries are a fairly recent phenomenon. Before Williams got here I can't recall Chair having any lengthy injury breaks.
Injuries are a growing problem in the game and there are many factors behind that, but our record in recent seasons has been abysmal. And it's not all down to our recruitment.
As for Burrell's 'contact injury' last season!? C'mon, nobody believes that!
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QPR and injuries on 23:18 - Sep 10 with 2547 views
Chair may also be suffering from the very common case of too many games too young - as per Sterling, Rooney, Dele and Owen and lots of other top players who played every week from the age of 18 and were done by 28 with 300 or 400 games under their belt…
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QPR and injuries on 23:28 - Sep 10 with 2512 views
The current position (I know only six games in) would suggest they are outperforming last seasons efforts and the teams they played so far. So comparatively it backs up that they are fitter or being better managed. Either way its an improvement.
Maybe a cheeky dig but it feels like its another way of knocking the current 'regime' running the club.
Is it though? You can talk about improved performances until the cows come home - and I accept we HAVE played better this season - but the only stat that really matters is the result. So Let’s take a look. This season 0-0 v Charlton. Last season 0-0 v Charlton. This season lost to Boro. Last season lost to Boro. This season won at Blackburn. Last season won at Blackburn. This season drew 0-0 v Bolton. Last season drew 0-0 with Oxford This season won at home v Cardiff. Last season won at home v SW. This season won 3-1 at Portsmouth. last season drew 1-1 at Portsmouth. So we are the grand total of TWO POINTS better off than last season
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QPR and injuries on 23:35 - Sep 10 with 2481 views
Chair may also be suffering from the very common case of too many games too young - as per Sterling, Rooney, Dele and Owen and lots of other top players who played every week from the age of 18 and were done by 28 with 300 or 400 games under their belt…
The players you suggested were all established first teamers at a younger age than Chair.
Chair made his debut in Belgium at 17, but he was 21 at the start of his first full season as first team regular for us (2019/20).
Before that he had only played 26 league games in total. 16 of those were his loan spell at Stevenage the season before.
This is what ChatGPT had to say about it when asked if QPR get.more player injuries than other football clubs -
I think there is enough evidence now to say that Queens Park Rangers F.C. have had a genuine recurring injury-availability problem, rather than it merely feeling that way as a QPR supporter. What is much harder to establish is that QPR definitively suffer more injuries than every other Championship club, because there isn't a good publicly available, standardised league-wide dataset measuring injury-days lost on the same basis. What makes me think there is a QPR-specific issue is the persistence across different managers. Back in 2023, Gareth Ainsworth explicitly said Rangers had lost “too many key players, too many times over too many seasons” and that the club needed to investigate the recurring problem. � Last season the problem was again significant enough that Julien Stéphan talked about having to balance training load and intensity because QPR simply couldn't afford another attacking injury. � And in May he specifically identified keeping players available throughout the season as something QPR needed to improve. � West London Sport West London Sport QPR What's striking is that it's happening again already in 2026/27. Chair and Richard Kone were injured against Middlesbrough five days ago; then against Charlton yesterday QPR lost Tariq Lamptey and Jimmy Dunne. West London Sport describes Rangers as having been “plagued by injuries in the past couple of seasons.” � West London Sport +1 There probably isn't one cause. I think it's a combination of squad construction, individual injury histories, workload and bad luck. QPR have repeatedly relied heavily upon players who already have substantial injury histories. Chair, for example, was restricted to only 15 appearances last season and has previously had back, knee and hamstring problems. � Jake Clarke-Salter is an even more extreme example: the current injury record has him having missed a huge number of matches since his hip problem began in January 2025. � Lamptey has also only recently returned from a long-term knee injury. � Yahoo Sports +1 Transfermarkt West London Sport There is then a vicious-circle effect. Injuries reduce the number of available players → the remaining first-choice players have to play more → coaches have fewer opportunities to rotate → fatigue/load increases → injury risk can increase. Stéphan's comments about having to carefully balance training intensity are consistent with exactly that problem. � West London Sport Interestingly, QPR clearly have tried to address it. They invested in sports science and medical provision, and in 2021/22 used the Zone7 injury-risk system. Zone7's own case study reported a 33% reduction in injuries per game and a 35% reduction in injury-days lost per game compared with the previous season. So this isn't simply a club that has ignored sports science. � Zone7 That makes me reluctant to say “QPR's medical department is poor.” We simply don't have the evidence for that. Some of the injuries are plainly unavoidable — Burrell's injury last season, for example, was a contact injury caused by landing awkwardly rather than a muscle-load problem. � BBC But I do think there's a more interesting question behind yours: does QPR's recruitment strategy leave them with an unusually injury-prone squad? My suspicion is that this may explain more of it than the medical department does.
We, as a group, need to stop copying and pasting this slop onto here.
In fact skimming through that list it's amazing how many of them have played for us at one time. Albert Adomah top with 526 Championship appearances, just ahead of Lee Camp in second.
Chris Martin, David Marshall, Shaun Derry, Jake Bidwell, and Tommy Smith all in the top 18.
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QPR and injuries on 07:58 - Sep 11 with 2188 views
Is it though? You can talk about improved performances until the cows come home - and I accept we HAVE played better this season - but the only stat that really matters is the result. So Let’s take a look. This season 0-0 v Charlton. Last season 0-0 v Charlton. This season lost to Boro. Last season lost to Boro. This season won at Blackburn. Last season won at Blackburn. This season drew 0-0 v Bolton. Last season drew 0-0 with Oxford This season won at home v Cardiff. Last season won at home v SW. This season won 3-1 at Portsmouth. last season drew 1-1 at Portsmouth. So we are the grand total of TWO POINTS better off than last season
That’s a great comparison
The clear difference is, however, the way we are playing. Fairly easy on the eye and there does seem to be a good spirit amongst the squad. What I’m waiting to see is if we can mix things up and battle, bite and hairy bollox our way through when needed. The run of games post international interlude will give a true indication on that.
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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QPR and injuries on 08:46 - Sep 11 with 2088 views
The clear difference is, however, the way we are playing. Fairly easy on the eye and there does seem to be a good spirit amongst the squad. What I’m waiting to see is if we can mix things up and battle, bite and hairy bollox our way through when needed. The run of games post international interlude will give a true indication on that.
Not just how we are playing but also comparing those games, we have definitely deserved more points than we have. Whereas the “same” games last year, think we were quite fortunate. Over a 46 game season, that should even itself out. If we ignore the elephant in the room regarding injuries.
Will we hear anything today as an update? Fat chance.
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QPR and injuries on 08:52 - Sep 11 with 2066 views
Modern players seem much more susceptible to impact injuries than those in the old days, when players played on clogged up pitches, slower pace and not the finely toned athletes they are these days. I do wonder if modern pitches that are like carpets have an effect as well as over training. I just can't remember back in the 70s and 80s when squads were smaller so many injuries to players , or were they just harder players that played through a higher pain threshold as there was no more than 1 sub to replace them.
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QPR and injuries on 09:47 - Sep 11 with 1975 views
Another consideration. You keep those U21 players around and you can have a better stab at the Carabao Cup.
I know it costs money to keep them on all season - maybe just as squad players and not playing until Oct/Nov or March/April when injuries and suspensions hit hard but I am sure that the risk-reward of going further in a Cup and maybe getting into the play-offs would justify the retention of one or two of them.
We were already out of the League Cup when their loans took place.
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QPR and injuries on 10:33 - Sep 11 with 1883 views
so many replies and thoughts and basically no definitive answer , it is sport and injuries happen . lamptey is back from a bad ACL injury when on loan in italy last season. i am hoping we cop none at baggies saturday.
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QPR and injuries on 10:59 - Sep 11 with 1792 views
Modern players seem much more susceptible to impact injuries than those in the old days, when players played on clogged up pitches, slower pace and not the finely toned athletes they are these days. I do wonder if modern pitches that are like carpets have an effect as well as over training. I just can't remember back in the 70s and 80s when squads were smaller so many injuries to players , or were they just harder players that played through a higher pain threshold as there was no more than 1 sub to replace them.
I think the over-training is the biggest thing. They are so fine-tuned nowadays that they are on the brink of of injury the whole time. I would like to see the state of some of them when they get into their 40’s and 50’s. The is a lot of talk about heading the ball and potential links to dementia. I think the physical toll will be far greater.
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QPR and injuries on 11:24 - Sep 11 with 1717 views
In fact skimming through that list it's amazing how many of them have played for us at one time. Albert Adomah top with 526 Championship appearances, just ahead of Lee Camp in second.
Chris Martin, David Marshall, Shaun Derry, Jake Bidwell, and Tommy Smith all in the top 18.
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He's top of the pile for QPR with the most appearances in the second tier. Tony Hazel is 2nd with 202 then Jimmy Dunne 197
Not just how we are playing but also comparing those games, we have definitely deserved more points than we have. Whereas the “same” games last year, think we were quite fortunate. Over a 46 game season, that should even itself out. If we ignore the elephant in the room regarding injuries.
Will we hear anything today as an update? Fat chance.
We're currently top of the Justice League.
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QPR and injuries on 14:56 - Sep 11 with 1429 views
Stephan looks exhausted in this interview and very pissed about the injuries. Interesting I think Nathan Jones (God bless him) actually nails what most managers in the EFL are thinking about the relation between stupidly packed schedules and increasing injuries. I think he says what most managers think. The people behind these schedules no nothing about football and don't care.
We’ve played six games for gods sake, after weeks of pre-season preparation.
Professional athletes should be able to manage that unless there is something fundamentally wrong with them.
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QPR and injuries on 15:35 - Sep 11 with 1356 views
I don't think there are any published data for injuries.
Recently our club, and I think a few others have been citing (hiding behind!) GDPR as the reason for not publishing injury data.
To my mind that's flimsy. No one is asking for X-rays, a list of medications, or a second opinion. There's no reason why clubs can't be obliged to honestly disclose which players are unavailable and how long they are likely to be out for. In American sports they seem to manage it (and yes I know they don't have GDPR!)
I think it is true that injuries and particularly muscle injuries are a growing problem in the game. Sports science says that muscle injuries are wholly preventable and shouldn't happen, and yet the data shows that they are on the increase despite clubs having better medical facilities and support staffs than ever before.
I think there are a number of factors that might be contributing to this:
1. Should we have a 24 team second tier? 46 games (plus play offs) is a heavy load for clubs competing for a chance at Premier League riches.
2. On top of the 46 game season we have the disruption and additional pressure of the international breaks. If it was up to me only players from top tier clubs could be called up for internationals during the season and the EFL fixtures would continue as normal and be more evenly spread out with fewer three-game weeks (just call me Wolfie!)
3. There's evidence that the switch to five substitutes has led to a faster and more intense game. That sounds great but it puts extra pressure on those outfield players who have to play the whole game at full throttle. Maybe five is the wrong number. Either go back to three subs or just have a free for all with players coming on and off as necessary (not something I want to see!)
4. I think we can look at reviewing transfer windows. In the old days clubs could transfer players throughout most of the season. If clubs were open about which players are going to be unavailable mid season then allowing for short-term loans as cover from PL clubs (who hoard all the young talent anyway) should be an option.
Looking at ourselves. I think we need to ask if we should be putting so much faith in so many players who have iffy injury records. It's a feature of muscle injuries that once you've had one bad one you are greater risk of getting another one.
Overall there needs to be more transparency about injuries. Not just from our club which hasn't done itself any favours with its 'need to know' comms policy, but from the game as a whole. Footballers are expensive assets, they are also people with short careers. Pushing them to breaking point helps no one. The game as a whole should be doing more to address the issue of muscle injuries.
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Interesting point about five subs and the impact on injuries - would be interesting to see the stats for that since the five sub rule was introduced.
Interesting point about five subs and the impact on injuries - would be interesting to see the stats for that since the five sub rule was introduced.
I will admit that I was influenced by Michael Cox who has written several articles arguing that five substitutes has led to greater intensity and more strain on players:
I only did a very quick search for evidence to verify this. All I found was one study on La Liga which argues the opposite is true and five subs has led to fewer injuries, and fewer muscle injuries:
However, La Liga only plays 38 league games and they get Christmas and New Year off. So it's arguable that they don't really have the same unrelenting intensity that players in the Championship experience..
It's also worth noting that the study used Transfermarkt data (doesn't everyone these days), so maybe it wasn't the most reliable study.
On a related note leagues that have a winter break experience far fewer injuries:
"Conclusions: The absence of a scheduled winter break was associated with a higher injury burden, both before and during the two periods following the time that many European teams take a winter break. Teams without a winter break (English clubs) had a higher incidence of severe injuries following the time of the year that other teams (other European clubs) had their scheduled break."
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QPR and injuries on 18:26 - Sep 11 with 1114 views
I think it’s the communication strategy of our injuries that piss so many of us off. Yes we know players get injured and yes we know all clubs think they are the worst affected but if the club didn’t lie or ignore the injuries then I don’t think it would be as big of an issue.
Also, I assume we don’t release the info to give us an advantage over the opposition, but that hasn’t worked in any games ever. We have never won due to someone like Saito being out for 2 weeks rather than 3!
I’d disagree with this. As much as it is nice to have injury information this would be a benefit to the opposition, WBA would have a significant advantage, for example, knowing if Dunne is playing tomorrow and to a lesser extent other players. The Championship is tight and just a few percentage points to your opponents can make a difference over time.
The more long-term injuries I think it is absolutely fair and necessary to update the fans but let’s keep it as it is generally.
just recieved the "R's ready for clash at The Hawthorns" email regarding tomorrow's game, and the 3 poster boys are Koki, Lamptey, and JCS... which suggests they are all fit and ready. Could Lamptey be fit to play afterall?
just recieved the "R's ready for clash at The Hawthorns" email regarding tomorrow's game, and the 3 poster boys are Koki, Lamptey, and JCS... which suggests they are all fit and ready. Could Lamptey be fit to play afterall?
I was told Kone and Poku were in pre match stuff but need to check myself. Wouldn’t get your hopes up about Lamptey and Saito. Even if Lamptey is fine, he won’t be playing.
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