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Forever R’s 20:33 - Jan 28 with 15295 viewsNoDiddley

Can someone explain this induction process to this?
Is it anybody who has kicked a ball for us?
Tomorrow apparently it’s Anton Ferdinand, nice lad , only played 40 games, probably best remembered for the JT incident?
Thoughts
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Forever R’s on 19:15 - Jan 29 with 1862 viewsHarbour

Was very good we supported him while he was here and he clearly appreciated it. The club once again doing brilliantly on and off the pitch valuing and showing appreciation for former players long may it continue. Well done Anton I hope you and your family enjoyed the day it was great to see you back.
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Forever R’s on 19:22 - Jan 29 with 1822 viewsLongsufferingR

Was worth it just for the assist for Cisse's goal against Stoke. I'd say that the Forever R's is made for just this type of recognition. I was far more interested in what AF had to say than I have been in plenty of others.
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Forever R’s on 19:25 - Jan 29 with 1807 viewsPaddyhoops

Forever R’s on 17:32 - Jan 29 by 08olesen

What was the reception like at HQ?


As Mr Sheen said . One of the best receptions I've seen in relation to the legends spot.
Loud applause and he was genuinely moved by it.
Not our greatest defender but a huge part of our history sadly for the wrong reasons.
We stood by him and that can only be a good thing.
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Forever R’s on 19:44 - Jan 29 with 1748 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Forever R’s on 19:09 - Jan 29 by nix

Definitely meant not be alive. He was choked up.

Also lovely little cartwheel from tiny daughter who lapped up the applause.


Well, that's amazing, Nix.

I didn't publicly send Ferdinand support in the aftermath. I wasn't on Twitter at the time, though I could've wrote a letter, thinking back. I didn't, more's the pity.

But him saying that he wouldn't be alive right now if it wasn't for the support of the fans is profound, a lasting tribute to those fans who did publicly support him.

To my mind, it is justification in itself - if it were ever needed in the first place - of his induction to Forever R's.

I tweeted last night that I was 100% behind this and only sorry that I couldn't be there to support it, and hearing of how it unfolded I'm even more sorry now that I couldn't.

I couldn't give a flying fúck right know if the new words "woke" or "snowflake" apply to me or not. I don't know, and I don't care. Words chain us, humanity frees us. I'm just proud of those supporters who supported him then and again today and of my club for organising it.

And you say that it ended in a cartwheel from his tiny daughter on the very same pitch where his pain started? How apposite. How appropriate. How beautiful.

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Forever R’s on 19:49 - Jan 29 with 1686 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Forever R’s on 19:14 - Jan 29 by traininvain

Obviously you’re going to find anti Chelsea sentiment on a QPR message board. Most of us don’t like them very much and think fondly of our former players who were involved in wins against Chelsea.

That’s without delving deeper into the whole Ferdinand and Terry incident (life’s too short) which I sense is the real reason you’re upset about Ferdinand being inducted into the Forever R’s.

Anyway, I’ve always found JT a cringeworthy nickname coming out of the mouths of grown up Chelsea fans let alone a QPR supporter.


Ah, the race card. I wondered how long it would take you to pull it out. Always a sure sign that an argument lacks depth. Unfortunately for you, your senses are well off target.

The JT incident is irrelevant to me because (a) it's old news and (b) I don't carry an irrational hatred for Chelsea. Their fans laugh at us in the same way we laughed at Brentford fans when they tried to stoke up a 'rivalry'.

Now I realise that this is going to hurt but the fact is that QPR haven't been in the same footballing galaxy as Chelsea for over 20 years. Their fans don't give us a moment's thought which means that the hatred is 1 way and therefore irrational.

Moreover, Chelsea do a ton of work in the community (sorry but we're not the only ones) and I'd hazard a guess that they've signed more black players than we have. JT played with and is respected by a fair few. I doubt this would be the case if he was an out-and-out racist.

Ditching this anti-Chelsea sentiment has given me clarity of thought. In my opinion, AF doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Forever Rs club simply because the limited appearances and poor performances don't merit it. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything he's a Forever Hammer.

Unfortunately your thought process (and that of some others on here) is shaped by the JT incident and forged by an irrational hatred of Chelsea. Deep down you know I'm right but the hatred is strong in you. It prevents you from accepting the truth so your defence mechanisms kick in and you resort to thinly veiled accusations of racism.

Now, as I said earlier, QED. I'll leave you and the gang to nosh each other off with your anti-Chelsea vibes.
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Forever R’s on 19:59 - Jan 29 with 1637 viewsRangersw12

Forever R’s on 19:49 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball

Ah, the race card. I wondered how long it would take you to pull it out. Always a sure sign that an argument lacks depth. Unfortunately for you, your senses are well off target.

The JT incident is irrelevant to me because (a) it's old news and (b) I don't carry an irrational hatred for Chelsea. Their fans laugh at us in the same way we laughed at Brentford fans when they tried to stoke up a 'rivalry'.

Now I realise that this is going to hurt but the fact is that QPR haven't been in the same footballing galaxy as Chelsea for over 20 years. Their fans don't give us a moment's thought which means that the hatred is 1 way and therefore irrational.

Moreover, Chelsea do a ton of work in the community (sorry but we're not the only ones) and I'd hazard a guess that they've signed more black players than we have. JT played with and is respected by a fair few. I doubt this would be the case if he was an out-and-out racist.

Ditching this anti-Chelsea sentiment has given me clarity of thought. In my opinion, AF doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Forever Rs club simply because the limited appearances and poor performances don't merit it. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything he's a Forever Hammer.

Unfortunately your thought process (and that of some others on here) is shaped by the JT incident and forged by an irrational hatred of Chelsea. Deep down you know I'm right but the hatred is strong in you. It prevents you from accepting the truth so your defence mechanisms kick in and you resort to thinly veiled accusations of racism.

Now, as I said earlier, QED. I'll leave you and the gang to nosh each other off with your anti-Chelsea vibes.


Fkc me we've just hammered the fake hoops and your sitting on here licking Chelsea's arse

Oh and if they don't give a Fck about us why have their biggest turn outs for years been when we've played them
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Forever R’s on 20:19 - Jan 29 with 1581 viewsJamesB1979

Forever R’s on 03:05 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball

The incident is irrelevant. It is not a criteria for entry into the Forever Rs club, nor is being related to the DOF. The club could make an alternative gesture (which IMHO isn't required) instead of devaluing the Forever Rs club. Anton, together with many of his teammates, represents everything that was wrong with QPR at the time. Who are we going to induct next? Bosingwa? Assou-Ekotto? Todd Kane?
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You can’t compare Anton to some of those signings that had no heart and were only here for the money. He gave his all for the club. Whatever wage he was on is irrelevant. He certainly went downhill after the incident. His documentary on what happened and after is very moving. I for one am 100% behind him being include in the club.
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Forever R’s on 21:49 - Jan 29 with 1462 viewsNortholt_Rs

Forever R’s on 20:19 - Jan 29 by JamesB1979

You can’t compare Anton to some of those signings that had no heart and were only here for the money. He gave his all for the club. Whatever wage he was on is irrelevant. He certainly went downhill after the incident. His documentary on what happened and after is very moving. I for one am 100% behind him being include in the club.


He got a great reception from all of us in A block.

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Forever R’s on 22:22 - Jan 29 with 1379 viewspaulparker

Any chance we can Dennis Bailey in ?

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Forever R’s on 22:25 - Jan 29 with 1374 viewsChrisNW6

Forever R’s on 22:22 - Jan 29 by paulparker

Any chance we can Dennis Bailey in ?


Don't get me started on Dennis 'bloody' Bailey and his pathetic 40 appearances. How can he be a forever R 😁
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Forever R’s on 22:25 - Jan 29 with 1374 viewsDannytheR

A very nice, very human gesture on a very good day in W12.

What else is there to be said?
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Forever R’s on 22:29 - Jan 29 with 1341 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Forever R’s on 22:22 - Jan 29 by paulparker

Any chance we can Dennis Bailey in ?


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Forever R’s on 22:40 - Jan 29 with 1294 viewsPunteR

Forever R’s on 19:49 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball

Ah, the race card. I wondered how long it would take you to pull it out. Always a sure sign that an argument lacks depth. Unfortunately for you, your senses are well off target.

The JT incident is irrelevant to me because (a) it's old news and (b) I don't carry an irrational hatred for Chelsea. Their fans laugh at us in the same way we laughed at Brentford fans when they tried to stoke up a 'rivalry'.

Now I realise that this is going to hurt but the fact is that QPR haven't been in the same footballing galaxy as Chelsea for over 20 years. Their fans don't give us a moment's thought which means that the hatred is 1 way and therefore irrational.

Moreover, Chelsea do a ton of work in the community (sorry but we're not the only ones) and I'd hazard a guess that they've signed more black players than we have. JT played with and is respected by a fair few. I doubt this would be the case if he was an out-and-out racist.

Ditching this anti-Chelsea sentiment has given me clarity of thought. In my opinion, AF doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Forever Rs club simply because the limited appearances and poor performances don't merit it. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything he's a Forever Hammer.

Unfortunately your thought process (and that of some others on here) is shaped by the JT incident and forged by an irrational hatred of Chelsea. Deep down you know I'm right but the hatred is strong in you. It prevents you from accepting the truth so your defence mechanisms kick in and you resort to thinly veiled accusations of racism.

Now, as I said earlier, QED. I'll leave you and the gang to nosh each other off with your anti-Chelsea vibes.


Chelsea is irrelevant.

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Forever R’s on 22:49 - Jan 29 with 1264 viewsed_83

Forever R’s on 19:49 - Jan 29 by Benny_the_Ball

Ah, the race card. I wondered how long it would take you to pull it out. Always a sure sign that an argument lacks depth. Unfortunately for you, your senses are well off target.

The JT incident is irrelevant to me because (a) it's old news and (b) I don't carry an irrational hatred for Chelsea. Their fans laugh at us in the same way we laughed at Brentford fans when they tried to stoke up a 'rivalry'.

Now I realise that this is going to hurt but the fact is that QPR haven't been in the same footballing galaxy as Chelsea for over 20 years. Their fans don't give us a moment's thought which means that the hatred is 1 way and therefore irrational.

Moreover, Chelsea do a ton of work in the community (sorry but we're not the only ones) and I'd hazard a guess that they've signed more black players than we have. JT played with and is respected by a fair few. I doubt this would be the case if he was an out-and-out racist.

Ditching this anti-Chelsea sentiment has given me clarity of thought. In my opinion, AF doesn't deserve to be inducted into the Forever Rs club simply because the limited appearances and poor performances don't merit it. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything he's a Forever Hammer.

Unfortunately your thought process (and that of some others on here) is shaped by the JT incident and forged by an irrational hatred of Chelsea. Deep down you know I'm right but the hatred is strong in you. It prevents you from accepting the truth so your defence mechanisms kick in and you resort to thinly veiled accusations of racism.

Now, as I said earlier, QED. I'll leave you and the gang to nosh each other off with your anti-Chelsea vibes.


Get a grip. You don’t have to be some rabid anti-Chelsea fundamentalist (I’m certainly not, even if I think Terry’s a disgraceful specimen and a large chunk of their support are awful) to recognise that Anton underwent an experience while acting as a servant of this club which affected him in profound and extremely negative ways for a very long time. If that had been the only game he’d ever played for us, then a recognition of what he went through by the club and us as supporters would still be an honourable and empathetic thing to do. If you’ve watched the BBC documentary about it, and still think that what really matters here is his appearance count, then you need to rethink your priorities.

We should celebrate and support Anton for the same reason that we don’t quibble about how many first team appearances Kiyan Prince or Ray Jones made: because what QPR means to people and the values it (and we) stand for should go further than just what happens on the pitch.
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Forever R’s on 00:11 - Jan 30 with 1127 viewspaulhoop2

Can I nominate Vinny Jones. Played a few games is a character perfect fit for recognition

However that’s not to laugh at AF what he went through is disgusting. He was abused on the pitch because of his skin no doubt about it. If good old JT hadn’t he would have surely sued the fa
? I cheered proud and loud today
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Forever R’s on 00:14 - Jan 30 with 1099 viewsstainrods_elbow

Forever R’s on 23:25 - Jan 28 by Benny_the_Ball

Not only did AF barely feature for QPR but when he did he was largely terrible. A political gesture that frankly devalues the Forever Rs concept. OG by the club.


What AF went through while with this us horrible, but I agree. AF turned out for nine clubs and even played more games for Southend then for us before he retired. By all means bring him back as a club guest, but 'Forever Rs' should imply rather more than three dozen mostly forgettable games for us in sides that were pony.
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Forever R’s on 00:23 - Jan 30 with 1094 viewsSharpy36

Not quite sure i get this whole "Forever R`s" format. To me it`s got a underlying "It`s the taking part" ethos about it.

'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.'

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Forever R’s on 00:26 - Jan 30 with 1088 viewsCiderwithRsie

There've been numerous threads about Forever Rs where it's been done to death that it's not some sort of Hall of Fame, it's about recognising members of the QPR family. Some people still either don't get it or want to try and make a negative point about a particular player. It's pathetic really and demeans anyone who does it - "Oh someone is doing a nice thing for someone else, I think I'll just throw a bit of snark into things." You might as well stand around outside restaurants on Valentine's Day shouting "It'll never last!"

I won't say that everyone who has ever pulled on the shirt deserves to get in, there are players who weren't interested, but it's actually the guys who didn't make it big time for which this sort of thing matters. As to whether Anton Ferdinand "just gets in because of the Terry incident": well, actually, that's good enough reason for me. We were meant to be fodder to the mighty "Top 6 club" who "don't see QPR as rivals" and we turned the feckers over. They may not have thought it was a derby but they bloody well knew it was by full time.

It was about passion from the supporters and players in the face of overwhelming odds. God knows the team of that era lets us down most weeks, that day they didn't, and Chelsea couldn't cope with it. They lost their bottle, a player was too scared to take a corner, two more got sent off and a third should have been, and Terry showed his true colours with a stream of vile racist abuse for which he then came up with the most pathetic "dog ate my homework" sort of excuses ever heard until recently.

On that day the fans were with Ferdinand and he was with us and that's plenty good enough even if he did nothing else for us. And anyone who can't see that, well fair enough, it takes all sorts, but honestly they're missing out on what it is to be a QPR fan.
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Forever R’s on 00:30 - Jan 30 with 1070 viewsstainrods_elbow

Forever R’s on 10:09 - Jan 29 by Phil_i_P_Daddy

“He's obviously bothered enough to come back.“
A very good point and not one I had considered when ruminating on the merits of some of our inductees.
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Do we know which ex-Rs have turned down this diluted - sorry esteemed - induction into our footballing mythology? (Have any?)
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Forever R’s on 00:43 - Jan 30 with 1052 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Forever R’s on 00:14 - Jan 30 by stainrods_elbow

What AF went through while with this us horrible, but I agree. AF turned out for nine clubs and even played more games for Southend then for us before he retired. By all means bring him back as a club guest, but 'Forever Rs' should imply rather more than three dozen mostly forgettable games for us in sides that were pony.
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Whoop, there it is. At last, some perspective. Someone who judges AF's suitability for induction based on his appearances and performances as opposed to fuelling an irrational hatred of JT/Chelsea or a desire to soothe one's soul through virtue signalling.
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Forever R’s on 00:47 - Jan 30 with 1041 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Forever R’s on 00:30 - Jan 30 by stainrods_elbow

Do we know which ex-Rs have turned down this diluted - sorry esteemed - induction into our footballing mythology? (Have any?)
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Forever R’s on 00:55 - Jan 30 with 1030 viewsPunteR

Forever R’s on 00:43 - Jan 30 by Benny_the_Ball

Whoop, there it is. At last, some perspective. Someone who judges AF's suitability for induction based on his appearances and performances as opposed to fuelling an irrational hatred of JT/Chelsea or a desire to soothe one's soul through virtue signalling.


Whoopdy doo..someone agrees with Benny.
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Forever R’s on 01:03 - Jan 30 with 1013 viewsWhip_It

As others have said, Anton got a fantastic reception. You have to go onto social media or message boards to find the sad cases who want to have a pop at him, or the club. Thankfully, none of those people seemed to be at the game today.
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Forever R’s on 01:10 - Jan 30 with 989 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Forever R’s on 00:26 - Jan 30 by CiderwithRsie

There've been numerous threads about Forever Rs where it's been done to death that it's not some sort of Hall of Fame, it's about recognising members of the QPR family. Some people still either don't get it or want to try and make a negative point about a particular player. It's pathetic really and demeans anyone who does it - "Oh someone is doing a nice thing for someone else, I think I'll just throw a bit of snark into things." You might as well stand around outside restaurants on Valentine's Day shouting "It'll never last!"

I won't say that everyone who has ever pulled on the shirt deserves to get in, there are players who weren't interested, but it's actually the guys who didn't make it big time for which this sort of thing matters. As to whether Anton Ferdinand "just gets in because of the Terry incident": well, actually, that's good enough reason for me. We were meant to be fodder to the mighty "Top 6 club" who "don't see QPR as rivals" and we turned the feckers over. They may not have thought it was a derby but they bloody well knew it was by full time.

It was about passion from the supporters and players in the face of overwhelming odds. God knows the team of that era lets us down most weeks, that day they didn't, and Chelsea couldn't cope with it. They lost their bottle, a player was too scared to take a corner, two more got sent off and a third should have been, and Terry showed his true colours with a stream of vile racist abuse for which he then came up with the most pathetic "dog ate my homework" sort of excuses ever heard until recently.

On that day the fans were with Ferdinand and he was with us and that's plenty good enough even if he did nothing else for us. And anyone who can't see that, well fair enough, it takes all sorts, but honestly they're missing out on what it is to be a QPR fan.


AF is a South Londoner who supports West Ham. During his career he played far more games for West Ham, Sunderland and Southend than he did QPR. In the few appearances he made for QPR he was largely abysmal. He's not a member of the QPR family.
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Forever R’s on 01:13 - Jan 30 with 985 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Forever R’s on 00:55 - Jan 30 by PunteR

Whoopdy doo..someone agrees with Benny.
Straight into Bennys Hall of fame club.


Ah, welcome Snowflake 6 into the Forever Snowflakes club.
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