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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ 19:29 - Oct 17 with 259232 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

About time we had one I think?
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 20:48 - Jun 24 with 3169 viewsthemodfather

well ghana had a plan, defend and hope to break, ok they could have had a penalty but went down easily like many teams do.
we hit the bar and kane blasted the follow up over the bar. we created few chances but remain TOP , ghana celebtrated like they'd won the whole cup
should Partey be on pitch? or in the country?
one issue is if we can't break down ghana , how to break down spain/france/brazil etc etc ???
panama next i know little bar a canal, cigars, hats and Noriega!
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:36 - Jun 25 with 2995 viewsSydneyRs

Spain drew with Cape Verde. Portugal drew with DR Congo. Belgium drew with Iran. But apparently its just England who are rubbish.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:57 - Jun 25 with 2938 viewsPlanetHonneywood

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:36 - Jun 25 by SydneyRs

Spain drew with Cape Verde. Portugal drew with DR Congo. Belgium drew with Iran. But apparently its just England who are rubbish.


Rice looks knakered, we're nursing Saka, and neither Madueke or Gordon look remotely like they're going to tear the oppo's fullbacks a second one.

We've always had a problem caused by not having a player in the midfield who can really pull the strings and while we have shown some improvement in ball retention, breaking teams down who've parked the bus, remains a challenge.

However, we did show in the second half against Croatia, something not seen for a while: an ability to really get at a team and impose ourselves. Although the first half was defensively poor, we came out of that game with some positives. So, as with QPR, the answer lay somewhere in between,

Score against Ghana, and one assumes they'd would have had to open up and we might well have won with ease. You also have to assume that once out of the group stage, you're going to meet teams more inclined to attack then park the bus, which might assist England more. However, for me the underlying issue, especially against teams who are adept at keeping the ball and can break fast: will we have the legs come mid-July?

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:58 - Jun 25 with 2931 viewsLblock

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:36 - Jun 25 by SydneyRs

Spain drew with Cape Verde. Portugal drew with DR Congo. Belgium drew with Iran. But apparently its just England who are rubbish.


England were rubbish - you canot get away from that.

The game is narrowing though.
It's becoming really formulatic and, to be quite frank, dull.
The difference at the top is those players with bravery and magic who do that in one moment and unlock deep and tight teams.

I do think England are too shite at the back to go far into this WC but we do have a good few players who can hold or give and do that at the right time; they can play slow or fast and get to the line. Up top Kane will 9 times out of 10 hit you and hurt you in defence or attack but the only way we'll beat teams like Ghana is by getting round the back.

Looking forward to Saturday's game for the novelty of a 10pm KO in the boozer.
Panama will be taking a Ghana approach I'd imagine so we'll see

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 00:33 - Jun 26 with 2775 viewsSydneyRs

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 08:58 - Jun 25 by Lblock

England were rubbish - you canot get away from that.

The game is narrowing though.
It's becoming really formulatic and, to be quite frank, dull.
The difference at the top is those players with bravery and magic who do that in one moment and unlock deep and tight teams.

I do think England are too shite at the back to go far into this WC but we do have a good few players who can hold or give and do that at the right time; they can play slow or fast and get to the line. Up top Kane will 9 times out of 10 hit you and hurt you in defence or attack but the only way we'll beat teams like Ghana is by getting round the back.

Looking forward to Saturday's game for the novelty of a 10pm KO in the boozer.
Panama will be taking a Ghana approach I'd imagine so we'll see


Its more that far more fuss seems to be made of it when we have a game like that vs when Spain etc do. Agree on the defence, especially as sicknote James already seems to be having issues.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 12:46 - Jun 26 with 2542 viewsthemodfather

well we are top, thru and can improve, few expected that classic game v croatia , ghana blocked, went down easy and all the shithousery possible and hoped to get us on break, they had a call for penalty ok, gordon really has done little in 2 hrs?
but we have options, the job is get out of the group, done
now to jockey for position to get as good a placement in the ko stages as we can get.
i'd take a 1-0 win v panama with no injuries and use of squad
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 14:40 - Jun 26 with 2463 viewsnumptydumpty

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 12:46 - Jun 26 by themodfather

well we are top, thru and can improve, few expected that classic game v croatia , ghana blocked, went down easy and all the shithousery possible and hoped to get us on break, they had a call for penalty ok, gordon really has done little in 2 hrs?
but we have options, the job is get out of the group, done
now to jockey for position to get as good a placement in the ko stages as we can get.
i'd take a 1-0 win v panama with no injuries and use of squad


My Eleven for Panama


Pickford

O'Reilly Guehi Konsa (F**k Knows) ie we have no decent right backs here.

Anderson Rogers

Rashford Eze Saka

Kane


Bellingham (Rested)
Rice and James (injured)
Madueke and Gordon (sh*t)

Pickford is the goalkeeper and keepers are hardly ever changed or rested in world cups but either Trafford or Henderson would be fine for me.

We have hardly any options in defence. Stones been out for too long, Spence and James both bang average. The decisions not to take Maguire, Shaw, Trent all look bad decisons already. All have qualities and experience. Our defence is weak and zero cover. Chalaboah replacement is laughable too.

Think giving Rogers, Saka, Rashford and Eze game time, as all have a part to play later. The failures of Gordon and Madueke also has exposed the depth up top and decisons to not take Gibbs White, Palmer or Foden also currently not looking top bananas.

Possibly could rest Kane and try Toney. But i dont think that will happen and Watkins I feel isnt a one up top type of striker.



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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:19 - Jun 26 with 2390 viewsthemodfather

line ups. um
i have issues with pickford.

but we have to loom at options if needed so
trafford
spence guehi stones o'reilly
rashford rogers mainoo henderson
eze watkins
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:56 - Jun 26 with 2326 viewsnumptydumpty

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:19 - Jun 26 by themodfather

line ups. um
i have issues with pickford.

but we have to loom at options if needed so
trafford
spence guehi stones o'reilly
rashford rogers mainoo henderson
eze watkins


Well yes i agree with you about Pickford. He is the archetypal clown type goalkeeper a la Bruce Grobelaar, he can be brilliant but can drop the odd clanger, and yes if it was likely to happen I would play Trafford too, but i cant see it happening.

I said in our season last year rhe odd game, I wouldhave replaced Walsh with Hamer or Nardi feom the bench. You can do five subs, aonif the goalkeeper having a bad game, no real reason why you cant sub him occasionally and gives the othwr keeper some game time also. Seems to be an unwritten law not to do that,unless you the ex Spurs manager away in Real Madrid.

Forgot about Mainoo too, I would try to give him some game time too.

Jordan Henderson i guess but unless we get a lot if injuries i cant see him getting on as sub apart from , if it is the knockout stages and we shutting up shop with ten minutes left to play. Maybe he could bring him on late against Panama so at least he has some game time out there.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 17:12 - Jun 26 with 2291 viewsdaveB

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:19 - Jun 26 by themodfather

line ups. um
i have issues with pickford.

but we have to loom at options if needed so
trafford
spence guehi stones o'reilly
rashford rogers mainoo henderson
eze watkins


We had the friendlies for that, still need to win so would expect a strong side
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:10 - Jun 26 with 2195 viewsnumptydumpty

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 17:12 - Jun 26 by daveB

We had the friendlies for that, still need to win so would expect a strong side


Englands third eleven should annhilate Panama.

I think it would be wise to give a few players a rest and other players time in the middle.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:10 - Jun 26 with 2128 viewsHunterhoop

Also, guys, if Eze is going to play at any point, itโ€™s in the midfield 2. He came on for Rice against Costa Rica and played there, and for Anderson against Ghana. I think Tuchel wants to use him as a central midfielder with the ball at his feet being someone who picks the passes. He isnโ€™t playing 10, left wing, or up top. Itโ€™s clear he is not in the top 2 for those positions, but Tuchel keeps using him in central midfield.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:48 - Jun 27 with 1903 viewsthemodfather

james out, am i harsh but he has struggled all season and before that , why did they risk him? he has only played 2 games in arow for chelsea once since march!!
also stones is a gamble.
we almost have a free hand tonight to try a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:57 - Jun 27 with 1877 viewspaulparker

Who would of thought weetabix james would get injured
We now have 2 full backs left and grandad Henderson to cover midfield as Rice also has hamstring issues
If we do have to play Senegal next then I canโ€™t see us doing anything against them

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot Thatโ€™s there thatโ€™s two, and thatโ€™s Bowles Brian Moore

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 17:57 - Jun 27 with 1799 viewsPlanetHonneywood

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:57 - Jun 27 by paulparker

Who would of thought weetabix james would get injured
We now have 2 full backs left and grandad Henderson to cover midfield as Rice also has hamstring issues
If we do have to play Senegal next then I canโ€™t see us doing anything against them


Picking James and Livramento as your RBs was always going to be a gamble. The only thing you can say for both lads, with injury records like theirs, you wouldn't be surprised if they rocked up at W12, sailed through the medical process (such that it is!), and promptly joined JCS in the Matty Rose memorial treatment room.

Not sure who else he could/should have brought, but TAA might have been more durable. With Stones and Saka having issues, Tuch really has gambled.

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 18:14 - Jun 27 with 1775 viewsHunterhoop

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 16:57 - Jun 27 by paulparker

Who would of thought weetabix james would get injured
We now have 2 full backs left and grandad Henderson to cover midfield as Rice also has hamstring issues
If we do have to play Senegal next then I canโ€™t see us doing anything against them


1) itโ€™s likely we play Congo. If they beat Uzbekistan, we will play Congo.
2) Mainoo and Eze are the cover for Anderson and Rice. Everything in the pre-WC friendly and first two games points to that.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 20:39 - Jun 27 with 1638 viewsSuperhoops2808

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 17:57 - Jun 27 by PlanetHonneywood

Picking James and Livramento as your RBs was always going to be a gamble. The only thing you can say for both lads, with injury records like theirs, you wouldn't be surprised if they rocked up at W12, sailed through the medical process (such that it is!), and promptly joined JCS in the Matty Rose memorial treatment room.

Not sure who else he could/should have brought, but TAA might have been more durable. With Stones and Saka having issues, Tuch really has gambled.


When he had the chance to call up a right back just before start of the tournament, he should have called TAA but wouldnt swallow his pride
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:44 - Jun 27 with 1546 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Nice little link on the BBC.

Not sure we've ever had this many Londoners in a international squad?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:48 - Jun 27 with 1537 viewsMick_S

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:44 - Jun 27 by BazzaInTheLoft

Nice little link on the BBC.

Not sure we've ever had this many Londoners in a international squad?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art


Hoddle and Wilkins from Hillingdon. Not bad!

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:50 - Jun 27 with 1528 viewsHooparoo

Good luck England.Tea and toast time here. Hope Ebs gets a run

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 21:54 - Jun 27 with 1508 viewsMalintabuk

Well that is an attacking team...
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:06 - Jun 27 with 1476 viewstommytanker

Qpr flag behind the Panama goal.
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:07 - Jun 27 with 1475 viewsHooparoo

England away shirt looks good

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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:07 - Jun 27 with 1475 viewsMrSheen

England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:06 - Jun 27 by tommytanker

Qpr flag behind the Panama goal.


Fidel Escobar is an interesting combination
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England Thread ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ on 22:10 - Jun 27 with 1461 viewsMalintabuk

Rushford already looking good on the left
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