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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient 12:00 - Feb 8 with 53851 viewsDannyPaddox

Up against Man City in the FFS that was offside FA Cup. I prepare to stand corrected but I think Charlie is still our player but as I take as much interest in modern football players contracts and transfers as I do in mobile phone contracts I could be wrong. Either way seems like a good lad and having a decent season with a club I like so up the O’s!

Up against a central defender today in Ruben Dias who’s worth approx £75 mil … would love to see Charlie meg him.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:28 - Mar 27 with 2864 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:21 - Mar 27 by numptydumpty

Have you seen a few of his games Benny ??

He is contributing all round and very good in link up and hold up.play too


Yes, those areas in particular have seen a big improvement. Strength conditioning is helping him hold the ball up under pressure. He also seems to enjoy dropping deep at times to get involved in the build-up play. Still lacking in raw pace mind but, given our dearth of options up front, it'll be interesting to see if Marti thinks Charlie has done enough to merit a go next season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:06 - Mar 27 with 2693 viewsMick_S

Watching this tonight for obvious reasons. Stevenage staff around the bench trying to fix things pre dressing room. Players out for the second half trying to work stuff out for themselves.
Interesting.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:20 - Mar 27 with 2602 viewsHantsR

Dom Ball on now.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:21 - Mar 27 with 2585 viewsMick_S

Dom Ball is on. All will be ok

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Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:30 - Mar 27 with 2528 viewsdmm

Not watching the game myself, but wondered how our lad Cooper is doing keeping goal for Stevenage?
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:38 - Mar 27 with 2486 viewsDorse

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:20 - Mar 27 by HantsR

Dom Ball on now.


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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:19 - Mar 27 with 2265 viewsLoft1979

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/live/cy0dzlnr245t

and rinse-repeat...
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 00:08 - Mar 28 with 2079 viewsBoston

Charlie Kelman's Latent Orient.
Skip through until the 11th min if you just want to see the goal.


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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 04:59 - Mar 28 with 1892 viewsHoopsie

This must be his watershed season just like chair at Stevenage or Dieng at Doncaster or Eze at Wycombe

Next season must surely be his last season to prove his worth at QPR

With his league form and goals surely warrant a serious relook

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:37 - Mar 28 with 1788 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 04:59 - Mar 28 by Hoopsie

This must be his watershed season just like chair at Stevenage or Dieng at Doncaster or Eze at Wycombe

Next season must surely be his last season to prove his worth at QPR

With his league form and goals surely warrant a serious relook


Tough one: give him a go v. one season wonder?

The only thing I'd definitely look to do is see if LO would take Alfred for next season, especially if we decide to return Charles to our squad.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:04 - Mar 28 with 1706 viewsnumptydumpty

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:37 - Mar 28 by PlanetHonneywood

Tough one: give him a go v. one season wonder?

The only thing I'd definitely look to do is see if LO would take Alfred for next season, especially if we decide to return Charles to our squad.


Sounds like a plan..

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:21 - Mar 28 with 1569 viewsLoyalitat

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:37 - Mar 28 by PlanetHonneywood

Tough one: give him a go v. one season wonder?

The only thing I'd definitely look to do is see if LO would take Alfred for next season, especially if we decide to return Charles to our squad.


Richie Wellens isn't stupid. In terms of overall football ability, there's a chasm between Kelman and Lloyd. Leyton Orient try to play football into feet which requires forwards with better touch, control, movement and game intelligence than Lloyd. Lovely chap, but Lloyd doesn't fashion a goal in the manner that Kelman did last night.

It also costs them money to sign players on loan which they are short of and won't squander. They could have signed Kelman already, but they couldn't afford the relatively low fee we asked for him. Wellens mentioned it last night after the game.

Whether it's with us or not, Kelman will be playing championship football next season. Stansfield and Barry aside, neither of whom should be/have been playing in that league, he's the second highest goal scorer. I'll be amazed if a league one side with play-off aspirations takes Lloyd on loan next season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:29 - Mar 28 with 1540 viewsNorthernr

This could be a nice unexpected positive for next season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:33 - Mar 28 with 1526 viewsGaryHaddock

If he comes back and does well, he’ll be added to a growing list of players and dev players that Ferdinand is responsible but gets no credit for.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:51 - Mar 28 with 1468 viewsGaryBannister86

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:21 - Mar 28 by Loyalitat

Richie Wellens isn't stupid. In terms of overall football ability, there's a chasm between Kelman and Lloyd. Leyton Orient try to play football into feet which requires forwards with better touch, control, movement and game intelligence than Lloyd. Lovely chap, but Lloyd doesn't fashion a goal in the manner that Kelman did last night.

It also costs them money to sign players on loan which they are short of and won't squander. They could have signed Kelman already, but they couldn't afford the relatively low fee we asked for him. Wellens mentioned it last night after the game.

Whether it's with us or not, Kelman will be playing championship football next season. Stansfield and Barry aside, neither of whom should be/have been playing in that league, he's the second highest goal scorer. I'll be amazed if a league one side with play-off aspirations takes Lloyd on loan next season.
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Or, Wellens is a good manager, and doesn't want to write off Alfie on the back of a few cameo appearances and the odd start at a young age. I would wager that Alfie has achieved more and done more than Charlie did in his equivalent starts for us.

Young players can improve, no? And it would seem Orient is a good place to send them at the moment.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:37 - Mar 28 with 1287 viewsKensalT

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:29 - Mar 28 by Northernr

This could be a nice unexpected positive for next season.


The downside being that if he does kick on then he will be in the last year of his contract and holding all the cards in any contract negotiation.

Would be interesting to know if Marti was at the game last night or has watched him at all this season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:45 - Mar 28 with 1245 viewsKensalT

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:33 - Mar 28 by GaryHaddock

If he comes back and does well, he’ll be added to a growing list of players and dev players that Ferdinand is responsible but gets no credit for.


That's a fair point.

But how many of our young players have flourished since Ferdinand and Ramsey left the club?

Also, Kelman seems to have put on some muscle this season. Was this under the direction of Ben Williams? Or had we just written Kelman off and allowed Orient to do what they wanted with his development?
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:46 - Mar 28 with 1239 viewsNorthernr

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:37 - Mar 28 by KensalT

The downside being that if he does kick on then he will be in the last year of his contract and holding all the cards in any contract negotiation.

Would be interesting to know if Marti was at the game last night or has watched him at all this season.


While I strongly suspect you're right, I'm not sure we know how long Kelman's contract is for. Wasn't he the first one to fall under Christian's information blackout?
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:10 - Mar 28 with 1128 viewsTheChef

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:45 - Mar 28 by KensalT

That's a fair point.

But how many of our young players have flourished since Ferdinand and Ramsey left the club?

Also, Kelman seems to have put on some muscle this season. Was this under the direction of Ben Williams? Or had we just written Kelman off and allowed Orient to do what they wanted with his development?


Good question - but given he's been there all season then either something has just clicked or he's really benefitted from their coaching.

Either way assuming he comes back, I hope he's not a League One version of Mike Sheron.

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:13 - Mar 28 with 1101 viewsLandshark

I guess the danger for the club now is his contract situation. His contract is up this summer but I guess we probably have a 1 year contract extension option in there.

The way he is playing this season you would expect he will be part of QPR plans for next season. Do QPR gamble and give him a new longer contract or do they risk it and potentially let him leave for free next season.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:42 - Mar 28 with 1021 viewssprocket

If we signed a L1 player scoring 15-20 goals there would be obvious excitement. Bit of no-brainer to sign him on multi year contract if we can and sell on if he can't make step up. How much would a 20 goal striker cost?
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:51 - Mar 28 with 983 viewsHunterhoop

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:42 - Mar 28 by sprocket

If we signed a L1 player scoring 15-20 goals there would be obvious excitement. Bit of no-brainer to sign him on multi year contract if we can and sell on if he can't make step up. How much would a 20 goal striker cost?


Exactly. You have to give him opportunities next season. His profile is what we’d be clamouring to sign in the summer. In this instance, he’s already out player.

The contract situation could mean he walks for a free in a year but none of us actually know what the length of his deal is.
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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:11 - Mar 28 with 916 viewsOldPedro

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:13 - Mar 28 by Landshark

I guess the danger for the club now is his contract situation. His contract is up this summer but I guess we probably have a 1 year contract extension option in there.

The way he is playing this season you would expect he will be part of QPR plans for next season. Do QPR gamble and give him a new longer contract or do they risk it and potentially let him leave for free next season.


Dave Mc did answer this on X last month - Kelman's contract not up this summer


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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:35 - Mar 28 with 829 viewsenfieldargh

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:11 - Mar 28 by OldPedro

Dave Mc did answer this on X last month - Kelman's contract not up this summer



THats good to hear about Kelman but who is this mystery player in the photo?

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Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:47 - Mar 28 with 777 viewsGloucs_R

Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:35 - Mar 28 by enfieldargh

THats good to hear about Kelman but who is this mystery player in the photo?


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