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Deluded or what? 11:27 - Sep 15 with 5860 viewsQPRSteve

Millwall manager Gary Rowett told BBC Radio London:

"I felt it was a pretty even game. The disappointing thing for us is the only two efforts they've had in the second half they scored both of them."

Thought we were head and shoulders above them.

Also didn't realise this considering all the doom and gloom on the match thread ahead of kick off. "We always lose there", etc.

From BBC "The Lions continued to work hard, but a late flurry aside, Johansen's goal put the seal on a comfortable evening for Rangers who have now lost just three times in 23 meetings with the Lions."



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Deluded or what? on 11:33 - Sep 15 with 3930 viewsfrancisbowles

Really. I must have watched a different game. How many times did they kick the ball straight into touch? When we were pinging it about, at times, they couldn't get near us. Their solution to going behind was to bring more giants on and sling in crosses which were mostly defended well.

We really should have been at least one up at ht and 4-0 or 4-1 wouldn't have flattered us. They only really had us worried that once.
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Deluded or what? on 11:34 - Sep 15 with 3933 viewsNorthernr

My favourite bit of the evening was him losing his sht over our subs not going off at the nearest point, and the referee explaining that they couldn't because the Millwall fans were throwing stuff at them. I swear I could see the vein on the side of his head from where I was.
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Deluded or what? on 11:36 - Sep 15 with 3903 viewsdmm

Deluded or what? on 11:34 - Sep 15 by Northernr

My favourite bit of the evening was him losing his sht over our subs not going off at the nearest point, and the referee explaining that they couldn't because the Millwall fans were throwing stuff at them. I swear I could see the vein on the side of his head from where I was.


Your eyesight and hearing are incredible. I didn't pick any of that up at all!
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Deluded or what? on 11:39 - Sep 15 with 3887 viewsjoe90

For what it's worth, looking at a Millwall forum they certainly don't agree with Rowett's view on the game.

Apparently his subs were a particular point of contention. Definitely frustration among the Wall fans directed at the players and manger.
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Deluded or what? on 11:45 - Sep 15 with 3828 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

I said similar after the match. I’m not sure that we’d have won if Willock hadn’t scored as we didn’t create many chances. Thought we well deserved the win but equaly could have come away with nothing.

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Deluded or what? on 11:48 - Sep 15 with 3791 viewsNorthernr

Deluded or what? on 11:36 - Sep 15 by dmm

Your eyesight and hearing are incredible. I didn't pick any of that up at all!


Well I presume that's why he was letting our subs do that, and he took some of the 'missiles' over there showed them to Rowett and handed them to the fourth official so I've deduced. Also, it's very funny, so I'd like it to be true.
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Deluded or what? on 12:25 - Sep 15 with 3581 viewsPaddyhoops

Bad as Rowett was let’s hope Stoke don’t get a first minute lead on Saturday Alex Niell will order 90 minutes of excruciating S**thousing!!
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Deluded or what? on 12:30 - Sep 15 with 3514 viewsLazyFan

Millwall didn't have Jed Wallace who always plays well against us. And don't seem to have a proper replacement hence their struggles. Like us without Willock, but way worse.

I fear for when we play WBA, they have Swift and Wallace who always play well against us.

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Deluded or what? on 12:39 - Sep 15 with 3461 viewsJuzzie

No Manager is going to say "we were scht" especially when losing 2-0 at home so they say what they need to say to deflect and try and save their job.
Thing is, most fans and club owners can see through it.
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Deluded or what? on 12:43 - Sep 15 with 3425 viewsderbyhoop

Apart from the Laird clearance and Flemmings shot that hit the bar, did Seny have a shot to save?
Maybe Cooper's effort that missed by inches.

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Deluded or what? on 12:46 - Sep 15 with 3409 viewskensalriser

Stats really don't reflect the reality of that game at all - shots 12/13 off target and 4/4 on, corners 5/4. Very surprised to see Millwall's possession at 58%.

We have had a lot of draws with them over the years.
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Deluded or what? on 13:15 - Sep 15 with 3228 viewsPunteR

Deluded or what? on 11:48 - Sep 15 by Northernr

Well I presume that's why he was letting our subs do that, and he took some of the 'missiles' over there showed them to Rowett and handed them to the fourth official so I've deduced. Also, it's very funny, so I'd like it to be true.


I thought the same. I think Nick London picked up on that as well. Good bit of reffing.

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Deluded or what? on 13:18 - Sep 15 with 3198 viewsLogman

The ref was good last night. He knew what he was doing and kept it in good control.
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Deluded or what? on 15:11 - Sep 15 with 2858 viewsBoston

Competitive match. We have more quality personnel than them and now our back line is firming up, teams that tend to play that basic 'fire the ball in and hope someone gets on the end of it', will find little success playing against us.

I am far more enamored by Beale than Warburton...kiss kiss, brown nose etc.

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Deluded or what? on 15:42 - Sep 15 with 2730 viewsNorthernr

Deluded or what? on 12:30 - Sep 15 by LazyFan

Millwall didn't have Jed Wallace who always plays well against us. And don't seem to have a proper replacement hence their struggles. Like us without Willock, but way worse.

I fear for when we play WBA, they have Swift and Wallace who always play well against us.


Just hope the Steve Bruce Tax is still in place. 30% of everything West Brom should be producing taken off them.
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Deluded or what? on 15:52 - Sep 15 with 2660 viewskensalriser

Deluded or what? on 15:11 - Sep 15 by Boston

Competitive match. We have more quality personnel than them and now our back line is firming up, teams that tend to play that basic 'fire the ball in and hope someone gets on the end of it', will find little success playing against us.

I am far more enamored by Beale than Warburton...kiss kiss, brown nose etc.


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Deluded or what? on 17:12 - Sep 15 with 2430 viewsextratimeR

Yes, Nick London confirmed on Commentary that Referee was explaining to Gary Rowett that he had no choice about point of substituition due to
Objects being thrown at QPR players.

(Not picked up by mainstream media?)
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Deluded or what? on 17:17 - Sep 15 with 2395 viewsstainrods_elbow

Deluded or what? on 17:12 - Sep 15 by extratimeR

Yes, Nick London confirmed on Commentary that Referee was explaining to Gary Rowett that he had no choice about point of substituition due to
Objects being thrown at QPR players.

(Not picked up by mainstream media?)


I'm glad we have a manager who actually tells it like it is, unlike the ridiculously myopic Roett and the ultimately cliche-ridden/platitudinous Warburton (who, I note, has now virtually patented in interviews his 'idee fixe' that our end-of season delcine was anything between 4, 6 and 8 weeks). Despite the cynical numpties on here who try to tell you there's some professional imperative in football that makes it the case that managers have to lie on camera.
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Deluded or what? on 17:21 - Sep 15 with 2371 viewsPinnerPaul

Deluded or what? on 11:34 - Sep 15 by Northernr

My favourite bit of the evening was him losing his sht over our subs not going off at the nearest point, and the referee explaining that they couldn't because the Millwall fans were throwing stuff at them. I swear I could see the vein on the side of his head from where I was.


Indeed. wish I could lip read. He seemed to accept the first part of the argument, but then the ref said something else and he was off on one!
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Deluded or what? on 17:37 - Sep 15 with 2307 viewsPinnerPaul

Deluded or what? on 11:45 - Sep 15 by CliveWilsonSaid

I said similar after the match. I’m not sure that we’d have won if Willock hadn’t scored as we didn’t create many chances. Thought we well deserved the win but equaly could have come away with nothing.


Yes - tbf - look at the match thread at HT.

Yes I know we're a pessimistic bunch on there, but everyone broadly agreed it was pretty even up to that point - we created the better chances - such as they were - but they had a more possession/territory if you like.
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Deluded or what? on 17:39 - Sep 15 with 2291 viewsPinnerPaul

Deluded or what? on 11:48 - Sep 15 by Northernr

Well I presume that's why he was letting our subs do that, and he took some of the 'missiles' over there showed them to Rowett and handed them to the fourth official so I've deduced. Also, it's very funny, so I'd like it to be true.


On the stream it looked like the ref held 4 fingers up to Rowett, to explain that it had happened 4 times.

I didn't hear Nick say that - but that's down to me!
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Deluded or what? on 17:42 - Sep 15 with 2276 viewsPinnerPaul

Deluded or what? on 17:17 - Sep 15 by stainrods_elbow

I'm glad we have a manager who actually tells it like it is, unlike the ridiculously myopic Roett and the ultimately cliche-ridden/platitudinous Warburton (who, I note, has now virtually patented in interviews his 'idee fixe' that our end-of season delcine was anything between 4, 6 and 8 weeks). Despite the cynical numpties on here who try to tell you there's some professional imperative in football that makes it the case that managers have to lie on camera.
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I don't think its cynicism, more the fact that 90% (made up stat) do!

Don't forget Mr B said Hulls goal was " 2 yards offside"
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Deluded or what? on 18:21 - Sep 15 with 2199 viewsenfieldargh

This from Danny Baker

Danny Baker, the Millwall-supporting radio presenter, wrote on social media: "Back from The Den. For only the second time in six decades I left before the final whistle. Millwall are a mess. A soporific, directionless, inspiration-free mess. A non-team, playing rudderless. timid, unattractive football. Management seem quite happy with that."

Also the fella with the long throw, all his throws were foul throws as both feet were on the playing field

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Deluded or what? on 18:30 - Sep 15 with 2169 viewsPinnerPaul

Deluded or what? on 18:21 - Sep 15 by enfieldargh

This from Danny Baker

Danny Baker, the Millwall-supporting radio presenter, wrote on social media: "Back from The Den. For only the second time in six decades I left before the final whistle. Millwall are a mess. A soporific, directionless, inspiration-free mess. A non-team, playing rudderless. timid, unattractive football. Management seem quite happy with that."

Also the fella with the long throw, all his throws were foul throws as both feet were on the playing field


Throws - see other thread.

Only part of each foot has to be on (OR behind) the line - so perfectly legal - common misconception.

Fans are always ott - in defeat or victory.

Look at some of the threads on here after our defeats this season!
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Deluded or what? on 18:35 - Sep 15 with 2145 viewsManinBlack

In response to the OP, I don't think my pre match concerns were specifically about Millwall but more our general performances in all our away London fixtures like regularly conceding three at Brentford and Fulham. Happy to see a positive away London performance last night.
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