| Are you bloody serious???? 21:06 - Oct 21 with 5387 views | ted_hendrix |
Not once but bloody twice |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 07:06 - Oct 22 with 1447 views | ozexile |
If Niko doesn't get a start on Saturday what's the point of having him here.? |  | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 07:56 - Oct 22 with 1382 views | loftus77 |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 22:28 - Oct 21 by enfieldargh |
He was great against Cowdenbeath |
This. And probably turned in good solid performances to vanquish the might of Ross County, Dundee and the Jags at times...
When are people going to realise that Glasgow Rangers (great club that they are/were) would not win League One south of the border?. They might make the play-offs along with Oxford.
For parity, Celtic (great club that they are/were) would not win our league - I'd put them on a par with Blackburn or Swansea at best.
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 08:49 - Oct 22 with 1293 views | BlackCrowe |
Has Wallace got any links with Asian betting syndicates by any chance? Seems the most plausible for such idiocy. |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 10:48 - Oct 22 with 1203 views | SimplyNico |
The other possibility is Barbet to LB given he played there for Brentford and either put Cameron or Conor in at CB. | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:08 - Oct 22 with 1175 views | Malintabuk |
Hopefully in the cold light of day we can be a little more realistic.
That was exactly the same defence that held Bournemouth without any real issues so it can defend. So what happened last night..... expectations
At the moment we really are not a good team.... we are far from a bad team but at our level a team is going to make mistakes as a team and as an individual.... if they were better players they would not be here.... let us be honest
I think we are going to get a lot more decent/poor intermingled performances before we become that decent/good team
We can't have the 2 season change around of personal as we have done and expect a purring machine. Unfortunately I think we will have many more PNE/Coventry nights than Bournemouth days
Not great but that is how it is.... this is what we at QPR are.... | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:09 - Oct 22 with 1169 views | CroydonCaptJack |
We actually restricted them to very few chances so defensively other than those ridiculously gifted pens we were ok. Perhaps more concerning was the lack of chances for us. |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:14 - Oct 22 with 1154 views | wombat |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 06:59 - Oct 22 by Paddyhoops |
So right about lee Wallace. The championship is a step up from the SPL. Wallace spent a lot of his time in the new Rangers rise through the lower leauges after thier finacial irregularities.
There was a fair amount of turkey shoots involved in those games and not a lot of defending to do!
In fairness Wallace was not alone last night. Not many came out in credit last night!! |
wallace is awful can anyone say he adds anything to the team ? cant attack down the wings cant cross , a we saw last night timing of a tackle leaves a lot to be desired as well
plan b niko whos been here forever and never claimed the left back spot ,
are we fecked YEP , manning not a great defender but massive influence on the left with being able to actually put the ball in the box and score the odd goal himself , at the moment its a work in progress but when the work contains a defender stephen hakwins could beat in a standing start race with low batteries we are in trouble , we also arent actually making that many chances now which is worrying |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:39 - Oct 22 with 1087 views | francisbowles |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:09 - Oct 22 by CroydonCaptJack |
We actually restricted them to very few chances so defensively other than those ridiculously gifted pens we were ok. Perhaps more concerning was the lack of chances for us. |
I agree with you on both your points and as well we gave the ball away far too much, Cameron, Ball, Dickie, BOS and others. I'm not sure what Carroll was doing pirouetting over on the right during the second half either. Fair play to him though he was trying to go forward and rarely gave the ball away.
I don't think we should have subbed Wallace last night, as others suggested, as that would be hanging him out to dry. He is an experienced pro, he knows he has made two very poor errors and has to realise you can't tackle in the box unless;
1. You really need to
2. You can clearly see the ball and are 99% sure of winning it and not catching the player as you do so.
I would however, give him a rest on Saturday and start Niko. Birmingham are an even more 'sit back' side and we will need more width, pace and creativity. I would also look at resting Ball or Cameron and bringing in either Bettache or change the system and bring in Willock moving Caroll inside maybe a 4141. Dykes to replace Bonn up top if fit. | | | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:48 - Oct 22 with 1077 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:14 - Oct 22 by wombat |
wallace is awful can anyone say he adds anything to the team ? cant attack down the wings cant cross , a we saw last night timing of a tackle leaves a lot to be desired as well
plan b niko whos been here forever and never claimed the left back spot ,
are we fecked YEP , manning not a great defender but massive influence on the left with being able to actually put the ball in the box and score the odd goal himself , at the moment its a work in progress but when the work contains a defender stephen hakwins could beat in a standing start race with low batteries we are in trouble , we also arent actually making that many chances now which is worrying |
Wallace has shown many times that he can tackle, and has put in a few excellent covering tackles to bail us out. He also has shown that he can attack well - I think it was the Forest game that he was excellent in.
He had a bad game last night. But he's not the root of our problems all of a sudden. |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:02 - Oct 22 with 1056 views | TheChef |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:09 - Oct 22 by CroydonCaptJack |
We actually restricted them to very few chances so defensively other than those ridiculously gifted pens we were ok. Perhaps more concerning was the lack of chances for us. |
Really it should have been 0-0, both keepers had very little to do. |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:10 - Oct 22 with 1039 views | LazyFan |
In my view Sinclair got fouled outside the box, started to go down and the Wallace clipped him as he was already falling. So, bit unlucky there.
2nd one was his fault but would never have happened if Dickie had not let the ball bounce. Still one cannot rely on your teammates to do all the work all the time, mistakes will happen. And after one pen, most people at any level would be super careful. Wallace was too casual and hence gave away two pens. He's a League One defender at best.
Even so, we never looked like scoring after the 1st pen. LTC was not effective and I doubt in most games he will be. Lots of nice passes in triangles with both feet, but little that's incisive that will open up a team. Should have got a penalty when he was tripped in the box though.
Cameron gives the ball away too much and is only in the game when the opposing team comes on to us. Ball was not great today either, he was on his own a lot in midfield and did not work well with the rest of the team. Chair was too deep which isolated Bonne, who failed to win many headers and worse did not hold up the ball at all well. Contrast their players who held the ball very well.
BOS did not have 2 on him the whole game and failed to really get past his fullback. Also, a pass from Uncle put him in the box and he failed to control it and that was a the 2nd time that happened.
If Hams is that good, he should start against Brum. But I suspect he's still in development. Uncle should replace BOS. And of course Dykes needs to return. I would also replace Cameron with Willock and let the forwards have a proper go. Chair needs to be up-field with Dykes and not drop back, or its time for Bonne to take his place. We cannot have constant recycling and sharp turns to pass sideways or back with pretty passing that never gets the ball in the box. We need to present more danger to the opposition, rather than play keep ball.
PNE played well with lesser players than us. But they played smarter. Even so, it was Charity Park Rangers again, gifting them the points. And we are on minus GD again. Not much has changed then. |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:18 - Oct 22 with 1017 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Are we really confident that PNE have lesser players than us? | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:20 - Oct 22 with 1011 views | TheChef |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:10 - Oct 22 by LazyFan |
In my view Sinclair got fouled outside the box, started to go down and the Wallace clipped him as he was already falling. So, bit unlucky there.
2nd one was his fault but would never have happened if Dickie had not let the ball bounce. Still one cannot rely on your teammates to do all the work all the time, mistakes will happen. And after one pen, most people at any level would be super careful. Wallace was too casual and hence gave away two pens. He's a League One defender at best.
Even so, we never looked like scoring after the 1st pen. LTC was not effective and I doubt in most games he will be. Lots of nice passes in triangles with both feet, but little that's incisive that will open up a team. Should have got a penalty when he was tripped in the box though.
Cameron gives the ball away too much and is only in the game when the opposing team comes on to us. Ball was not great today either, he was on his own a lot in midfield and did not work well with the rest of the team. Chair was too deep which isolated Bonne, who failed to win many headers and worse did not hold up the ball at all well. Contrast their players who held the ball very well.
BOS did not have 2 on him the whole game and failed to really get past his fullback. Also, a pass from Uncle put him in the box and he failed to control it and that was a the 2nd time that happened.
If Hams is that good, he should start against Brum. But I suspect he's still in development. Uncle should replace BOS. And of course Dykes needs to return. I would also replace Cameron with Willock and let the forwards have a proper go. Chair needs to be up-field with Dykes and not drop back, or its time for Bonne to take his place. We cannot have constant recycling and sharp turns to pass sideways or back with pretty passing that never gets the ball in the box. We need to present more danger to the opposition, rather than play keep ball.
PNE played well with lesser players than us. But they played smarter. Even so, it was Charity Park Rangers again, gifting them the points. And we are on minus GD again. Not much has changed then. |
To be fair to Bonne he had fairly awful service, might as well have stayed in his club suit.
Preston just did what they what they always do when they get ahead and managed the game quite easily without actually being that brilliant.
I still think as a team we are too nice. | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:56 - Oct 22 with 970 views | Myke |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:14 - Oct 22 by wombat |
wallace is awful can anyone say he adds anything to the team ? cant attack down the wings cant cross , a we saw last night timing of a tackle leaves a lot to be desired as well
plan b niko whos been here forever and never claimed the left back spot ,
are we fecked YEP , manning not a great defender but massive influence on the left with being able to actually put the ball in the box and score the odd goal himself , at the moment its a work in progress but when the work contains a defender stephen hakwins could beat in a standing start race with low batteries we are in trouble , we also arent actually making that many chances now which is worrying |
I think we need someone to start a thread on how much we miss Manning | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 13:54 - Oct 22 with 915 views | DWQPR |
If Bonne had taken the free header a minute or so before their first penalty things would have been different. It was a chance that he should have taken easily, instead he tried to glance it. Bonne, and I will give him time cost us goals against Bournemouth and also last night. He needs to sharpen up. Dykes would have buried that header. | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 14:32 - Oct 22 with 874 views | Myke |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 13:54 - Oct 22 by DWQPR |
If Bonne had taken the free header a minute or so before their first penalty things would have been different. It was a chance that he should have taken easily, instead he tried to glance it. Bonne, and I will give him time cost us goals against Bournemouth and also last night. He needs to sharpen up. Dykes would have buried that header. |
Bonne was offside. Good job he buried the header V Boro though | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:25 - Oct 22 with 831 views | paulparker |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 14:32 - Oct 22 by Myke |
Bonne was offside. Good job he buried the header V Boro though |
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| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:37 - Oct 22 with 815 views | cyprusmel |
I would like to see Hamalainen given his chance on Saturday and also bring back Masterson in place of Barbet.
Feel a bit sorry for Masterson losing his place in the team, he didn't do a lot wrong in my opinion. | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:50 - Oct 22 with 799 views | davman |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:48 - Oct 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
Wallace has shown many times that he can tackle, and has put in a few excellent covering tackles to bail us out. He also has shown that he can attack well - I think it was the Forest game that he was excellent in.
He had a bad game last night. But he's not the root of our problems all of a sudden. |
Agreed, but whilst others were poor last night, Wallace was abysmal as he was against Coventry - that walkabout for their first goal was inexplicable - why does a left back who is marking a free striker on the left feel the need to join three of his colleagues on the right hand (near) post? Still shaking my head at that one!
Two ABYSMAL games out of 6, two pretty good games and two "meh" - make of that what you will... |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:56 - Oct 22 with 786 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:37 - Oct 22 by cyprusmel |
I would like to see Hamalainen given his chance on Saturday and also bring back Masterson in place of Barbet.
Feel a bit sorry for Masterson losing his place in the team, he didn't do a lot wrong in my opinion. |
I though Barbet was much worse against Bournemouth, Mel, but Dickie and Wallace covered for him. | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 16:31 - Oct 22 with 734 views | cyprusmel |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 15:56 - Oct 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
I though Barbet was much worse against Bournemouth, Mel, but Dickie and Wallace covered for him. |
Do you fancy Dickie and Masterson partnership Brian ? | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 16:35 - Oct 22 with 726 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 16:31 - Oct 22 by cyprusmel |
Do you fancy Dickie and Masterson partnership Brian ? |
Not yet, Mel, to be honest. You'd like one experienced centre-back at least. Maybe next year. For now, Barbet needs to just hold the line. There's no need for him to be overcommitting, especially when we're playing with two DCM's. | |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 16:43 - Oct 22 with 712 views | simmo |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 11:08 - Oct 22 by Malintabuk |
Hopefully in the cold light of day we can be a little more realistic.
That was exactly the same defence that held Bournemouth without any real issues so it can defend. So what happened last night..... expectations
At the moment we really are not a good team.... we are far from a bad team but at our level a team is going to make mistakes as a team and as an individual.... if they were better players they would not be here.... let us be honest
I think we are going to get a lot more decent/poor intermingled performances before we become that decent/good team
We can't have the 2 season change around of personal as we have done and expect a purring machine. Unfortunately I think we will have many more PNE/Coventry nights than Bournemouth days
Not great but that is how it is.... this is what we at QPR are.... |
Indeed. I've made peace with that, mostly. Sometimes, during games and afterwards it still really gets to me and my emotions get the best of me, because it still hurts to lose and play shit.
But I try to look at the bigger picture and the realities are, we're doing a lot of stuff very well. It's been less than a season and a half with our team under Warburton - Eze going has allowed us to get the next wave of prospects in and at the moment that's all they are! A team of prospects and players past their best will get beaten a lot, but it's moving in the right direction generally and that's enough for me. At the moment... |  |
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| Are you bloody serious???? on 16:51 - Oct 22 with 696 views | PinnerPaul |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 21:25 - Oct 21 by Stanisgod |
You're fricking joking, no need even when it bounced to stick a lazy leg out AGAIN. |
Lets go 40% Dickie, 60% Wallace - Warburton and Sinton both said Dickie should have met that first ball - its basic stuff. | | | |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 17:27 - Oct 22 with 665 views | londonscottish |
| Are you bloody serious???? on 12:56 - Oct 22 by Myke |
I think we need someone to start a thread on how much we miss Manning |
Manning was great going forward but wasn't the best at actually, you know, defending stuff. |  |
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