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Warnock on the make? 09:59 - May 26 with 4433 viewsGloryHunter

Oh dear, more dodgy goings-on at QPR, allegedly.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/18688908/neil-warnock-rowan-vine-qpr-mon
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Warnock on the make? on 10:05 - May 26 with 4369 viewskingsburyR

Football is bent the world over.

With the amount of money sloshing around every grubby hand is in the pot.

Am I surprised by this....................NO.

Dont know why we bother. .... but we do!

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Warnock on the make? on 10:06 - May 26 with 4357 viewsAntti_Heinola

Old story - Vine been claiming this for years.

I have heard (first hand) that some managers would put a player on for last 2 mins so they can get their bonus, but the manager would get them to split it with them.

Bare bones.

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Warnock on the make? on 10:11 - May 26 with 4322 viewscolinallcars

I feel faint. Wave a wallet under my nose.
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Warnock on the make? on 10:12 - May 26 with 4315 viewsterryb

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that something like this had happened. That is not to say that this story is true.

I've been told that it used to be commomplace that a manager would receive a "present" form the bonus that players received when signing or selling them.
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Warnock on the make? on 10:25 - May 26 with 4223 viewsClive_Anderson

Seems to be a lot of the old school British managers rumoured to be involved in this sort of stuff, probably as they were around when football paid peanuts and wanted a few extra quid.

Now they're all earning millions, so there's no excuse apart from utter greed.
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Warnock on the make? on 10:29 - May 26 with 4201 viewsrobith

Warnock on the make? on 10:06 - May 26 by Antti_Heinola

Old story - Vine been claiming this for years.

I have heard (first hand) that some managers would put a player on for last 2 mins so they can get their bonus, but the manager would get them to split it with them.


IIRC Jason Puncheon made the same claim about his time under Warnock too didn't he?
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Warnock on the make? on 10:53 - May 26 with 4098 viewsNorthernr

Puncheon did previously say this about him at Palace.
Vine made this allegation on Undr the Cosh and they decided to cut it from the episode for legals. Think it's still the only thing they've ever cut from that show.
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Warnock on the make? on 12:33 - May 26 with 3797 viewsPhildo

I was told in the context of two players moving from another club where a manager was aware of their terms at both clubs they were offered a significant increase on their basic with 6k per game appearance fees thrown in but the any appearance fees had to be paid back to the manager.
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Warnock on the make? on 13:00 - May 26 with 3646 viewsslmrstid

Warnock on the make? on 10:53 - May 26 by Northernr

Puncheon did previously say this about him at Palace.
Vine made this allegation on Undr the Cosh and they decided to cut it from the episode for legals. Think it's still the only thing they've ever cut from that show.


It has featured on other episodes (Chris Morgan I think? Or maybe Michael Brown... Certainly someone from Sheff Utd with Warnock) that when they got sent off Warnock would make them write out a blank cheque for the fine and he'd fill the rest in later.
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Warnock on the make? on 13:53 - May 26 with 3425 viewsbaz_qpr

I used to work with a guy who came from QPR (corporatestaff), I heard a few eye opening stories especially around the time of Ramsey / caretaker role and really not a suprise he was never considered for a return despite the clamour from the fans.
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Warnock on the make? on 14:27 - May 26 with 3327 viewsswitchingcode

Few years back heard a story about agents bunging international managers for giving their players a cap normally in a nothing friendly and never picked again.This would relate to their contracts having clauses that their wages increased by in the case mentioned some 30% this spread over the remaining 2 years of their contract amounts to a nice earner everyone other than the club.I never bothered to check it out but said it was rife amongst the home nations.
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Warnock on the make? on 14:43 - May 26 with 3286 viewsthemodfather

you could imagine a scenario where a player to get a contract renewed on games played, say 30 in a season, that player gets 29 and is on the bench, now he could be sitting on a contract going out the window of say £1m? you could guess an "offer" gets mentioned....
i am not sure how happy i am with a manager aligned to one agent and thereby signing players on his books ie wolves a few years back, worlked for them then but.....not a free market.
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Warnock on the make? on 14:56 - May 26 with 3237 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Warnock on the make? on 10:06 - May 26 by Antti_Heinola

Old story - Vine been claiming this for years.

I have heard (first hand) that some managers would put a player on for last 2 mins so they can get their bonus, but the manager would get them to split it with them.


That's a long way from blocking a player from playing at all.

I was told that iffy Shittu appearance up front v Leeds after we won the league was based on sharing his bonus with Neil.

Legend, but one with faults.
[Post edited 26 May 2022 15:04]
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Warnock on the make? on 15:17 - May 26 with 3153 viewsstevec

Along the lines of ‘you’d have to pay me to go to Chelsea’, I wonder if at that point of Vines career Warnock was saying ‘you’d have to pay me to get a game in this team’.

I can’t remember Vine getting a single game in the promotion season or even being near the first team?
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Warnock on the make? on 16:22 - May 26 with 3005 viewsDixie_CT

APPARENTLY Colin got quite a hefty kick back from Sanny Dhittu signing a contract, apparently!

Game is corrupt, it’s rife, yum yum yum
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Warnock on the make? on 16:24 - May 26 with 3001 viewsbosh67

Warnock on the make? on 15:17 - May 26 by stevec

Along the lines of ‘you’d have to pay me to go to Chelsea’, I wonder if at that point of Vines career Warnock was saying ‘you’d have to pay me to get a game in this team’.

I can’t remember Vine getting a single game in the promotion season or even being near the first team?


Did he not have his leg broken in half by one of our goalkeepers in training?

Never knowingly right.
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Warnock on the make? on 17:12 - May 26 with 2883 viewsloftus77

Warnock on the make? on 16:24 - May 26 by bosh67

Did he not have his leg broken in half by one of our goalkeepers in training?


Yep...Matt Pickens, an American, wasn't it? 2009ish. I don't recall him ever actually playing for us. Rowan Vine talked about the incident in full detail in Under The Cosh (mentioned above) - not an easy listen...
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Warnock on the make? on 19:32 - May 26 with 2532 viewsGloryHunter

Meanwhile, Bernie says he didn't realise the gun was in his bag!
Interesting characters we have had at QPR . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/bernie-ecclestone-ex-f1-boss-arrested-in-brazil-for-i
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Warnock on the make? on 20:20 - May 26 with 2420 viewsjoe90

Vine comes across as a complete tool. Football is full of horrible people and he’s just another one on that spectrum of unpleasantness.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Warnock was up to no good, football is completely bent and we all know that.
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Warnock on the make? on 21:01 - May 26 with 2295 viewsClive_Anderson

Warnock on the make? on 20:20 - May 26 by joe90

Vine comes across as a complete tool. Football is full of horrible people and he’s just another one on that spectrum of unpleasantness.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Warnock was up to no good, football is completely bent and we all know that.


I remember Vine disappearing for a while and later reappearing looking like a tramp instead of a footballer.
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Warnock on the make? on 21:02 - May 26 with 2291 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Warnock on the make? on 19:32 - May 26 by GloryHunter

Meanwhile, Bernie says he didn't realise the gun was in his bag!
Interesting characters we have had at QPR . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/bernie-ecclestone-ex-f1-boss-arrested-in-brazil-for-i


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Warnock on the make? on 21:24 - May 26 with 2232 viewsNorthernr

Warnock on the make? on 17:12 - May 26 by loftus77

Yep...Matt Pickens, an American, wasn't it? 2009ish. I don't recall him ever actually playing for us. Rowan Vine talked about the incident in full detail in Under The Cosh (mentioned above) - not an easy listen...


No actually quite a painful listen. Great player for us initially, very badly treated (literally) with the injury, but a guy with a hell of a lot of issues.

Every story he told involved him being a monumental dickhead, people getting upset with him, and that being their fault. There was one where he’d seen Jimmy Walker and the West Ham lot out for a meal on holiday, so he’d crept up behind him and vomited into his dinner plate, and he couldn’t understand why they might be upset with that. Another where they went for a night out , he ripped somebody’s dress shirt off them, and again couldn’t fathom why that person was passed off they had to spend the reset of the night with no shirt. Two footed somebody on the dance floor after they’d just done a year out with an ACL and, again, their negative reaction was so out of order.

Said one year at QOR he went out on eight sepetste club’s Christmas parties in London, coventry’s etc. As if this was great and everybody loved it, when in fact he sounded like a total pain who just kept turning up at other people’s stuff.

. Talked about losing six figures in a casino in one night, but in no way that being a gambling problem.

It was grim tbh, I was amazed I made it to the end.
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Warnock on the make? on 22:46 - May 26 with 2098 viewseastside_r

Warnock on the make? on 21:24 - May 26 by Northernr

No actually quite a painful listen. Great player for us initially, very badly treated (literally) with the injury, but a guy with a hell of a lot of issues.

Every story he told involved him being a monumental dickhead, people getting upset with him, and that being their fault. There was one where he’d seen Jimmy Walker and the West Ham lot out for a meal on holiday, so he’d crept up behind him and vomited into his dinner plate, and he couldn’t understand why they might be upset with that. Another where they went for a night out , he ripped somebody’s dress shirt off them, and again couldn’t fathom why that person was passed off they had to spend the reset of the night with no shirt. Two footed somebody on the dance floor after they’d just done a year out with an ACL and, again, their negative reaction was so out of order.

Said one year at QOR he went out on eight sepetste club’s Christmas parties in London, coventry’s etc. As if this was great and everybody loved it, when in fact he sounded like a total pain who just kept turning up at other people’s stuff.

. Talked about losing six figures in a casino in one night, but in no way that being a gambling problem.

It was grim tbh, I was amazed I made it to the end.


Scorer of one of the great comedy QPR goals in an away win at Burnley 2007.
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