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The only one who can actually pass the ball. Broke the line by playing the first time ball several times. Still not physical enough, but I'd sooner have a player that can actually move the ball forward than another headless chicken in there. Be interesting to see what he is like next season after a summer in the gym.
As I said before, he is good when the team is on the front foot. I think he might finally be starting to come good.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 20:23 - Apr 12 with 2043 views
He clearly tired as did the rest of the team, Brizzle moved the ball around very well and it took a lot out of us, not all the players are Duracell bunnies like Saito
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 20:31 - Apr 12 with 1984 views
Played well up front with Yang, as he did some actual running around.
You see, he's very skillful, he passes well, crosses well, he even takes up decent positions (if the game is slowed), but he does not run enough and therefore is often caught out of position when the game moves fast and also is not agressive enough (although that's improving).
Today and Oxford showed he can contribute and not be a space-waster. But he clearly does not have the stamina for a full game, as he was subbed off and rightly so. He has.. two assists in the last two games, so he's improving.
Frey took half a season and a pre-season to get going. Let's hope Marti can coach the Champ into him. We shall see.
We also discovered where Yang plays best up front. Useful with our forward injuries. I called it that Marti would play him there, and I am calling it again: he will start the next match up front as his performance was decent. But it will mostly be down to Kohli and Frey not being fit. When Kolhi only has like 10 minutes, then that means he will only have 20 next game, and Frey will still wait.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 21:37 - Apr 12 with 1768 views
He was decent for the rest of the time he was on today but that first half an hour he was really good, looked like the player we thought we'd signed in August. Good to have someone who can actually take a set piece too.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 22:40 - Apr 12 with 1597 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 21:37 - Apr 12 by DieByYourSide
Want the guy to come good. Two assists in two games and got stuck in today. Well done!
I think pretty much everyone wants him to make it here. The frustration seems to be that we can all see his potential, he has produced flashes that give us hope.
And, as all R's are taught at their mother's knee: 'Bubi, it's the hope that kills you'.
I really like the way he's tried to grasp this latest opportunity. He can't have been unaware of our reaction to him - he looked spent last month but these two games gives him something to build on. Gotta start somewhere, right...? Right? Yeah?
Ah, bollocks, I'm hoping again. This bloody club.
'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'
I said on another thread that if he stays we need to toughen him up. Get him in a gym, get him sparring in a boxing ring, get him a lot fitter. He is 6 foot 4 and if he does stay he needs to be able to show what he can do while battering people and being a lot more aggressive. Perhaps he can do this. If he can then who knows?
Madsen done his bit in a decent(ish) team performance yesterday, he has talent for sure, more than quite a few in our team. Contrary to some posts, he shut players down in the press a lot.
Sadly posters still want to have a 'dig' because of the past performances, they need to recognise when he does a dent job for the team.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:15 - Apr 13 with 1102 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 18:39 - Apr 12 by BrianMcCarthy
He's still not working hard enough.
You have clearly given up on him Brian
He is not going to every be a Jack Colback in character or play.
But there were signs today, he has started to adapt to the physicality of the Championship
Was the difference today tbf as was crucial in the build up to our goal.
Yes he faded but to be expected - he has hardly played recently .
I think if he had been a free signing, the words on him now from some would be a lot more positive and it's not his fault how much money we paid for him.
He has the rest of the season now to impress. I am hopeful without saying he will definitely now turn it around.
There are signs of great vision, some skill and actually tbf a bit more bite finally too.
Him and Celar both now in same boat - and with both it must be hard to know you are not doing what you could do, with thousands viewing your poor performances.
To go out and finally put in a couple of decent performances for me shows some bottle
It would be all too easy and give up a la a Taylor Richards, who is coming back our way soon.
Most of us on here have never played professional football but when .managers show faith in certain players, then I feel we should trust their judgement over ours.
Two decent showings and two assists.
I don't think it's the time to be still knocking a player down that the manager definitely rates.
Orient fans were against the loan of Kelman after a previous poor season with them in league two. But he was awful that season.
I know it's early days but the improvements are certainly there. Let's trust the management team and see what happens
Eze was very poor with physical aspects of the gamein his early days and he improved with better coaching
I think behind the scenes they have helped Madsen and there are some signs.
But still for me fans still beating him down, it's not the time for that.
And again if he had been a free, the criticisms after the last two games would not be spoken
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:15 - Apr 13 by hoops_legend
Let’s not get too excited given the dross beforehand. I just wonder whether opposition have allowed him to play a little more than others
I hope he comes good but I feel it may be more of a case of offload over summer
Yea, look a previous, look at the negatives, talk about 'dross', its the opposition why he did ok......look at his performance yesterday. Pxss poor post.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:28 - Apr 13 with 1064 views
I agree with Brian. He's improving but definitely doesn't do enough, particularly when it comes to the physical stuff. Deal with that and he'll win me over.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:31 - Apr 13 with 1050 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:28 - Apr 13 by dmm
I agree with Brian. He's improving but definitely doesn't do enough, particularly when it comes to the physical stuff. Deal with that and he'll win me over.
I don't agree. Watch him properly, he shut & pressed pretty well yesterday & at Oxford. He put a shift in until he engine was done.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:44 - Apr 13 with 1006 views
Sitting in the School End Lower he was a man transformed for that first half hour - seemed to win everything and excellent smart, fast passing. Has that technical ability that makes it look effortless when on song.
Hard to know what to make of the rest of the team as he tired but so did everyone in the front four as Bristol Cuty kept the ball well. Still seemed to be winning headers but yes much less effective and its always hard to see what's going on at the loft end really so will leave that analysis to others.
I was impressed yesterday and good to see the crowd give him a decent sendoff when subbed. He doesn't look the sort who'll turn it around to spite a fanbase on his back.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:54 - Apr 13 with 939 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:50 - Apr 13 by Hoopstar
Sitting in the School End Lower he was a man transformed for that first half hour - seemed to win everything and excellent smart, fast passing. Has that technical ability that makes it look effortless when on song.
Hard to know what to make of the rest of the team as he tired but so did everyone in the front four as Bristol Cuty kept the ball well. Still seemed to be winning headers but yes much less effective and its always hard to see what's going on at the loft end really so will leave that analysis to others.
I was impressed yesterday and good to see the crowd give him a decent sendoff when subbed. He doesn't look the sort who'll turn it around to spite a fanbase on his back.
He's a ball player so looks better when we have the ball, his off the ball work was OK. I decided to watch him (on the stream) to see what he did off the ball, he doesn't sprint anywhere but he was moving and did seem aware of what was going on and his role. Some of his passing is spot on and, if he can continue his late season progress and he becomes more familiar with his team mates, I think we might see the incisive passing from him that we've lacked as a team. I thought Yang and Saitos movement helped him. I'm actually delighted for him. In the main, he's had an awful season, and at times he's looked thoroughly miserable. So it was lovely to see him take the applause of the fans when he was substituted.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:01 - Apr 13 with 871 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 08:17 - Apr 13 by numptydumpty
You have clearly given up on him Brian
He is not going to every be a Jack Colback in character or play.
But there were signs today, he has started to adapt to the physicality of the Championship
Was the difference today tbf as was crucial in the build up to our goal.
Yes he faded but to be expected - he has hardly played recently .
I think if he had been a free signing, the words on him now from some would be a lot more positive and it's not his fault how much money we paid for him.
He has the rest of the season now to impress. I am hopeful without saying he will definitely now turn it around.
There are signs of great vision, some skill and actually tbf a bit more bite finally too.
Him and Celar both now in same boat - and with both it must be hard to know you are not doing what you could do, with thousands viewing your poor performances.
To go out and finally put in a couple of decent performances for me shows some bottle
It would be all too easy and give up a la a Taylor Richards, who is coming back our way soon.
Most of us on here have never played professional football but when .managers show faith in certain players, then I feel we should trust their judgement over ours.
Two decent showings and two assists.
I don't think it's the time to be still knocking a player down that the manager definitely rates.
Orient fans were against the loan of Kelman after a previous poor season with them in league two. But he was awful that season.
I know it's early days but the improvements are certainly there. Let's trust the management team and see what happens
Eze was very poor with physical aspects of the gamein his early days and he improved with better coaching
I think behind the scenes they have helped Madsen and there are some signs.
But still for me fans still beating him down, it's not the time for that.
And again if he had been a free, the criticisms after the last two games would not be spoken
Let's see where things go.
Yeah I agree with a lot of that . Some miserable sods on this thread . (That’s a joke ) 🤣
The bit I’d disagree with is that “the manager clearly rates him”. I think MC gave up on him and really has had no choice due to the huge injury crisis. Only a week ago he was left on the bench in desperate game .
But yes, he did well and faded due to lack of match fitness . Also fans seem to want him tearing around like Sinclair Armstrong used to do or Jamie Mackie ?? He has to improve when we don’t have the ball but if he just runs around like a headless chicken then it’s much easier for the opponent to play through us . A centre forward can do that to a degree but he isn’t playing up front . He was probably told to hold his position and be more solid with the other midfielders.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:05 - Apr 13 with 835 views
Just want to point out to those saying he knackered by 65 minutes, as were Saito, Dembele etc. If we kept the ball better instead of booting it away then the players wouldn't spend 70% of the time running, tackling and pressing to get the bloody thing back.
We need technically better players to move onwards and upwards. The trick is getting the balance right and we have too many technically poor players at the moment.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:07 - Apr 13 with 823 views
For the record, Madsen reminds me of Steve Slade - undoubtedly talented but with the competitive aggression of a mouse.
A bit beside the point though. How we can have a dozen or so posts thinking he was OK until he "tired" or "faded" or "ran out of engine" is in any way acceptable baffles me. He's a fùcking professional athlete in a cardiovascular sport. I'm 50, smoked for 20yrs and am at least 2 stone overweight but I'd do that cùnt in a bleep test.
It's been said a million times and we've got a treatment room like a field hospital in the Somme to prove it but if we sleep-walk into next season with a fitness team literally phoning it in, we might as well not bother.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:10 - Apr 13 with 807 views
Just want to point out to those saying he knackered by 65 minutes, as were Saito, Dembele etc. If we kept the ball better instead of booting it away then the players wouldn't spend 70% of the time running, tackling and pressing to get the bloody thing back.
We need technically better players to move onwards and upwards. The trick is getting the balance right and we have too many technically poor players at the moment.
Or maybe if he had the courage to show for the ball more these so called technically inferior players would have a passing option?
Not sure I can name a player in this team technically inferior to Madsen, maybe Field who compensates by bring so much more to a Championship team.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:39 - Apr 13 with 720 views
The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:10 - Apr 13 by ParkRoyalR
Or maybe if he had the courage to show for the ball more these so called technically inferior players would have a passing option?
Not sure I can name a player in this team technically inferior to Madsen, maybe Field who compensates by bring so much more to a Championship team.
Wow, really? Here are a few- Dunne, Field, Varane, Cook, Smyth, Frey, Fox. I think you'll find that Field and Varane are the most guilty of hiding when our centrebacks are looking for an out ball. Madsen is not innocent, but they are worse. Mercifully 4 of the above mentioned 7 will hopefully be gone in the summer.
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The Madsen rehabilitation thread on 09:39 - Apr 13 with 717 views
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