| Horrific scenes in Liverpool 22:51 - May 26 with 11922 views | mart_Goblin |
Apologies if this is a Spackman , couldn’t see another thread , but the images and clips of that guy running people down …men, women and children in Liverpool are truly horrendous.
Sickening .
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 14:01 - May 27 with 3617 views | Rangersw12 |
Shocking scenes and massive questions need to be asked why a car was allowed to drive down that route
Fingers crossed no deaths and everyone recovers quickly
From the footage I've seen the car is being attacked then panics with their foot stuck on the accelerator.
I'm sure it wasn't a deliberate premeditated "attack" or anything but shocking all the same |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 15:42 - May 27 with 3402 views | Hayesender |
A man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after the Liverpool parade crash, Merseyside Police say
They add that the 53-year-old, from West Derby, has also been arrested on suspicion of driving while unfit through drugs and dangerous driving offences |  |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 15:50 - May 27 with 3351 views | kensalriser |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 15:42 - May 27 by Hayesender |
A man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after the Liverpool parade crash, Merseyside Police say
They add that the 53-year-old, from West Derby, has also been arrested on suspicion of driving while unfit through drugs and dangerous driving offences |
Not surprising, I thought drugs and/or alcohol would be involved. |  |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 15:54 - May 27 with 3332 views | bosh67 |
I'm in Liverpool at the moment and had to get some surgery checked out at The Royal this morning. I have to say the paramedics, fire brigade and hospital staff did a remarkable job making sure that no one died at the scene. Some paramedic teams worked on people in position on the street for over 2 hours before moving them. Incredible job and the two badly hurt people including one child are expected to make good recoveries. Outstanding emergency team work. |  |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 16:25 - May 27 with 3229 views | Bluce_Ree |
Sounds like the guy followed an ambulance into the closed off area. |  |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 16:30 - May 27 with 3194 views | Benny_the_Ball |
An appalling tragedy that beggars belief. My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. Wishing all those injured a speedy recovery. |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:31 - May 27 with 2879 views | colinallcars |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 15:50 - May 27 by kensalriser |
Not surprising, I thought drugs and/or alcohol would be involved. |
Alcohol = 2 year ban
Drugs = just carry on bruv |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:40 - May 27 with 2854 views | Paddyhoops |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:31 - May 27 by colinallcars |
Alcohol = 2 year ban
Drugs = just carry on bruv |
The amount of people I see smoking weed whilst driving is off the scale .
They’re begging to be nicked but they know the resources aren’t there to bring them to task .
Boils my piss. | | | |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 23:04 - May 27 with 2735 views | GroveR |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:31 - May 27 by colinallcars |
Alcohol = 2 year ban
Drugs = just carry on bruv |
Nonceing = MBE |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 00:14 - May 28 with 2632 views | kensalriser |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:31 - May 27 by colinallcars |
Alcohol = 2 year ban
Drugs = just carry on bruv |
Not easy getting the stats, but 2021 figures are 32000 prosecutions for drink driving and 21000 for drug driving with the latter figure rising rapidly and the former stable.
You're probably gettting a ban if you're nicked DUI. | |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 02:00 - May 28 with 2561 views | numptydumpty |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 00:14 - May 28 by kensalriser |
Not easy getting the stats, but 2021 figures are 32000 prosecutions for drink driving and 21000 for drug driving with the latter figure rising rapidly and the former stable.
You're probably gettting a ban if you're nicked DUI. |
You get caught once, automatic ban for life.
Hardly any would consider either choice and the roads would be safer.
Harsh but would save lives
The perpetrators would have to live with it and it would stop their mates from doing it at all - end of.
People's lives are far more important than anyone that drives with drink and / or drugs inside them. |  |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 06:06 - May 28 with 2485 views | stowmarketrange |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 02:00 - May 28 by numptydumpty |
You get caught once, automatic ban for life.
Hardly any would consider either choice and the roads would be safer.
Harsh but would save lives
The perpetrators would have to live with it and it would stop their mates from doing it at all - end of.
People's lives are far more important than anyone that drives with drink and / or drugs inside them. |
If you banned people from driving for life it wouldn’t save lives as the majority would carry on driving,knowing that there aren’t enough police to catch them all.And those that carried on wouldn’t get insurance so it would cost us all more to pay for the damage they’d do.
Maybe there should be a life ban for serial offenders,but everyone can make a mistake once.Even a self inflicted one. |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:37 - May 28 with 2380 views | numptydumpty |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 06:06 - May 28 by stowmarketrange |
If you banned people from driving for life it wouldn’t save lives as the majority would carry on driving,knowing that there aren’t enough police to catch them all.And those that carried on wouldn’t get insurance so it would cost us all more to pay for the damage they’d do.
Maybe there should be a life ban for serial offenders,but everyone can make a mistake once.Even a self inflicted one. |
It would be easy to check that the person was in the drivers seat of a car with modern technology today.
Anyhow can't stand anyone that drinks and drives or drives under influence of drugs.
It's a very dangerous crime, that many underestimate. It needs something to be done about it. Too many people die or are seriously injured every day of every year.
Obviously there needs to be changes in how this is dealt with. But people are generally very flippant about it, even today. It's dangerous and it can kill. | |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:41 - May 28 with 2367 views | stowmarketrange |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:37 - May 28 by numptydumpty |
It would be easy to check that the person was in the drivers seat of a car with modern technology today.
Anyhow can't stand anyone that drinks and drives or drives under influence of drugs.
It's a very dangerous crime, that many underestimate. It needs something to be done about it. Too many people die or are seriously injured every day of every year.
Obviously there needs to be changes in how this is dealt with. But people are generally very flippant about it, even today. It's dangerous and it can kill. |
It might be easy to check,but there aren’t enough police to enforce it sufficiently,so some people will carry on regardless.Some already do it now. | | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:48 - May 28 with 2345 views | numptydumpty |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:41 - May 28 by stowmarketrange |
It might be easy to check,but there aren’t enough police to enforce it sufficiently,so some people will carry on regardless.Some already do it now. |
Well if the culture changed gradually, their friends etc would stop these idiots from getting behind the wheel. Clearly there would be teething problems but I believe something must be done.
As a kid, I lost a friend at the age of 15, due to an idiot, who had not had a massive amount to drink but it clearly affected his judgement and he simply misjudged his speed and distances.
Something has to be done. It's a disgrace. I think they really need to introduce zero tolerance. People underestimate the effects on reactions etc.
Even one pint should be one pint too many. It encourages some to have two or three and they say - oh thats ok, I am an experienced driver, and their friends don't say anything.
It's wrong, full stop and it kills.
There must be ways implemented to stop this from constantly happening. So many die or suffer life changing injuries every single day of every single year.
People are way too flippant about this in this country especially. For me, its on a par with guns in America. Americans say they need them to protect themselves and in this country, the drinking culture means many still consistently break the law. Just because they have never had an accident and hurt someone in the process doesn't mean they never will.
The country definitely needs seriously educating about this.
Sorry to get on my high horse but I know the devastation people who do this, can create and it happens way too often.
Many many times every single day of every single year !!! [Post edited 28 May 7:54]
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:57 - May 28 with 2324 views | stowmarketrange |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 07:48 - May 28 by numptydumpty |
Well if the culture changed gradually, their friends etc would stop these idiots from getting behind the wheel. Clearly there would be teething problems but I believe something must be done.
As a kid, I lost a friend at the age of 15, due to an idiot, who had not had a massive amount to drink but it clearly affected his judgement and he simply misjudged his speed and distances.
Something has to be done. It's a disgrace. I think they really need to introduce zero tolerance. People underestimate the effects on reactions etc.
Even one pint should be one pint too many. It encourages some to have two or three and they say - oh thats ok, I am an experienced driver, and their friends don't say anything.
It's wrong, full stop and it kills.
There must be ways implemented to stop this from constantly happening. So many die or suffer life changing injuries every single day of every single year.
People are way too flippant about this in this country especially. For me, its on a par with guns in America. Americans say they need them to protect themselves and in this country, the drinking culture means many still consistently break the law. Just because they have never had an accident and hurt someone in the process doesn't mean they never will.
The country definitely needs seriously educating about this.
Sorry to get on my high horse but I know the devastation people who do this, can create and it happens way too often.
Many many times every single day of every single year !!! [Post edited 28 May 7:54]
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I agree with you mate,but channel 5 programmes are filled with repeat offenders who don’t learn their lesson. | | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 17:17 - Nov 26 with 1143 views | nick_hammersmith |
I'd forgotten that this happened, didn't seem to stay in the headlines that long, what with all the noise about small boats and taxes going up by pennies. |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 17:40 - Nov 26 with 1060 views | numptydumpty |
Remember having chats about this and the guy was a business man, and coming from a middle class background and supposedly a happy family also.
He was an ex Marine and it was suggested that when he inadvertently took the wrong route and then two or three people started smashing in his back windows and it was suggested, he could have had PTSD, having seen combat with the Marines, and could have felt under attack and threat, and the smashing in, off his windows, meant he was not in control and reacted in fear to try to get himself out of the situation.
Otherwise, its not understandable.
The guys extreme grief after the event for me says, it was a moment of madness, but lawyers are extremely competent, so he plead guilty.
He was guilty. There could have been reasons, because its inexplicable otherwise.
Fortunately, no one died.
But he has paid the price, as has his family. | |
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 18:36 - Nov 26 with 916 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 17:40 - Nov 26 by numptydumpty |
Remember having chats about this and the guy was a business man, and coming from a middle class background and supposedly a happy family also.
He was an ex Marine and it was suggested that when he inadvertently took the wrong route and then two or three people started smashing in his back windows and it was suggested, he could have had PTSD, having seen combat with the Marines, and could have felt under attack and threat, and the smashing in, off his windows, meant he was not in control and reacted in fear to try to get himself out of the situation.
Otherwise, its not understandable.
The guys extreme grief after the event for me says, it was a moment of madness, but lawyers are extremely competent, so he plead guilty.
He was guilty. There could have been reasons, because its inexplicable otherwise.
Fortunately, no one died.
But he has paid the price, as has his family. |
This post reminded me of Bob Katter talking about the gays and the crocodiles. |  | | |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 19:23 - Nov 26 with 773 views | numptydumpty |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 18:36 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
This post reminded me of Bob Katter talking about the gays and the crocodiles. |
i know nothing of that and so dont understand what you implying.
i dont mind if you dont agree but dont understand what you are saying as dont know the quote you make.
PTSD does happen a lot to servicemen, but very often in general situations, can develop. Uncontrollable bouts of rage beyond what it should be. i have known a couple with this diagnosis. Its a tough one to bear.
Didnt say there was any excuse for this, but this seemed to fit the reasoning as it was hard to understand why otherwise. Wouldnt myself thought it was calculated, orherwise think most of his family wouldnt have supported him throughout.
But yes enlighten me on crocodiles and gays Bazz.
No idea what you going on about.... [Post edited 26 Nov 19:33]
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 20:00 - Nov 26 with 666 views | Loyalitat |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 17:17 - Nov 26 by nick_hammersmith |
I'd forgotten that this happened, didn't seem to stay in the headlines that long, what with all the noise about small boats and taxes going up by pennies. |
Can't begin to wonder why it was immediately erased from the headlines. PTSD or otherwise, the intent was there to either inflict harm or even worse. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:42]
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| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 21:59 - Nov 26 with 497 views | MrSheen |
| Horrific scenes in Liverpool on 20:00 - Nov 26 by Loyalitat |
Can't begin to wonder why it was immediately erased from the headlines. PTSD or otherwise, the intent was there to either inflict harm or even worse. [Post edited 26 Nov 20:42]
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Sub judice, I imagine. |  | | |
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