| Pompey match thread 19:44 - Dec 25 with 25723 views | Hooparoo |
Four goals probably too much to hope for again but I’m quietly optimistic we can get a long overdue win on Boxing Day. Come on you Rs! |  |
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| Pompey match thread on 20:32 - Dec 26 with 2205 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Pompey match thread on 19:51 - Dec 26 by ParkRoyalR |
Madsen was totally MIA in the 1st Half, didn't show for the ball and made it look like we were playing with 10 men,
Obviously got a rocket at Half Time, as was a changed man from the start of the 2nd Half, showing & looking for the ball, suddenly we were playing with 11 and looked a different team, unfortunately one good quarter doesn't cut it as dropped off again late on, though did make a very decent covering challenge,
If this Squad it to fulfil its potential we need 90 minutes like that third quarter most weeks, the odd cameo won't see us troubling the Play Offs. |
Hard to say who was at fault for that first half as it was such a clown show all over but when we’re playing like we have no midfield defensively I’m putting that on Varane mainly. Saito was again anonymous, the ball rarely stuck when played up to the forwards, Mbengue was breezed past.
Second half I moved to a spot with a considerably worse view and it all seemed fine. |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 20:47 - Dec 26 with 2088 views | numptydumpty |
| Pompey match thread on 19:28 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
Why does that conclusion follow from those premises?
Why not feel fed up/angry/disappointed (again)?
Perhaps Nourry and Stephane can explain why the fans who attended shouldn't have half their money refunded as his team could only manage to play half a game (again)?
Our away showings are really becoming shameful. |
To be fair Stainrod, I was there and would not have needed a refund either amnd the game from our perspective was far from shameful.
Having lived in Pompey for several years in days gone by, am very aware of the
Pompey home fans effect, on Portsmouth always generally being very strong at home.
So a point after a much improved second half display was reasonable for me.
Yes its a drop from the Leicester game but you dont win every game thay way and Pompey finished 16th to our 15th last season, perhaps an away point is ok, if the wins keep coming at home. |  |
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| Pompey match thread on 21:06 - Dec 26 with 2003 views | colinallcars |
| Pompey match thread on 20:47 - Dec 26 by numptydumpty |
To be fair Stainrod, I was there and would not have needed a refund either amnd the game from our perspective was far from shameful.
Having lived in Pompey for several years in days gone by, am very aware of the
Pompey home fans effect, on Portsmouth always generally being very strong at home.
So a point after a much improved second half display was reasonable for me.
Yes its a drop from the Leicester game but you dont win every game thay way and Pompey finished 16th to our 15th last season, perhaps an away point is ok, if the wins keep coming at home. |
I'm inclined to agree. The first half was agony, even watching on QPR + with the benefit of some Scottish anxiety medicine.
2nd half much better from the off.
A point at Pompey ain't bad really, they're better than their league position suggests. |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 22:40 - Dec 26 with 1647 views | essextaxiboy |
Looked to me like we tried to play at less than 100% and contain them for a half or more , before switching it up to try to win .
Conceding before half time , not in the plan |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 00:05 - Dec 27 with 1413 views | Stocktake |
Stainrod says they are supposed to be professionals but must forget that they are also playing against professionals. I think the our playing style means it's difficult to dominate in some games away from home. Key is to stay in the game which we did but it's not always going to be pretty. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 10:26 - Dec 27 with 1048 views | Addinall |
| Pompey match thread on 20:10 - Dec 26 by themodfather |
well it is a point, we were awful 1st half and had to come back from behind with a better 2nd half, for me pompey played much better than a bottom 3 team. our win record there is low, so a point is ok, no damage done and in a great league position. it's the hope that gets me lol |
The Pompey manager said on his in house interview that their first half is the best they've played all season. From my armchair they looked very good to me. Yes we were poor with the ball but didn't have a lot of it.
Their goal had an element of good fortune in that I felt Hamer's view was blocked and he couldn't see it coming. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 10:26 - Dec 27 with 1043 views | terryb |
| Pompey match thread on 17:10 - Dec 26 by Rsole |
Bennie was stripped and ready to come on at one point and then - not.
Would have been better than Frey at that stage of the game I think. |
I think he was going to come on for Burrell, but then they needed to change to Field replacing Norrington-Davies | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 10:33 - Dec 27 with 1011 views | terryb |
| Pompey match thread on 19:51 - Dec 26 by ParkRoyalR |
Madsen was totally MIA in the 1st Half, didn't show for the ball and made it look like we were playing with 10 men,
Obviously got a rocket at Half Time, as was a changed man from the start of the 2nd Half, showing & looking for the ball, suddenly we were playing with 11 and looked a different team, unfortunately one good quarter doesn't cut it as dropped off again late on, though did make a very decent covering challenge,
If this Squad it to fulfil its potential we need 90 minutes like that third quarter most weeks, the odd cameo won't see us troubling the Play Offs. |
If Madsen made it like "playing with 10 men", I think we did well to only be one goal down at half time.
After all, Cook & Mbengue gave the ball to a Portsmouth player every time in the first half, so it would have been 8 against 13!
Thankfully, Mbengue improved in the second half. I'm not sure that Cook did. | | | |
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| Pompey match thread on 10:50 - Dec 27 with 930 views | Watford_Ranger |
Did Frey touch the ball? I refuse to believe if we’re chucking someone on when one of the strikers are knackered that Bennie wouldn’t offer at least as much. Good bloke and all that but he’s gone from crap cult hero to just dreadfully crap this season. Give the kid a chance. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 11:15 - Dec 27 with 822 views | mart_Goblin |
Hard to give my opinion on yesterday without sounding too negative.
A point away from home isn’t a disaster at all especially with our record but I still think that was a huge chance missed .
Hard to put my finger on exactly what the problem was or is away from home but it seems like multiple things . Do the 2 in midfield sit too deep ? Does this then mean the front 4 can’t press as it’s then too easy for the opponent to get out ?
The difference in ‘the press’ from yesterday to last Saturday was extraordinary.
What is it about playing away from home turns us into horrendous footballers who literally can’t string 2 passes together ? We look dreadful every time we play away recently . Is this mentality or the way we are set up or tactics ?
Not really sure. Maybe all 3 , but we won’t win many games playing like we did in that first half in particular. The worry is it’s becoming the norm away from home .
Those thinking Middlesbrough were some sort of footballing super power should look at their recent results to see that , although they looked very good , we made them look as good as they did .
We were a shambles and we were again yesterday for huge chunks.
We have to try to be more on the front foot against West Brom or we’ll see the same again. I understand he need to be compact , but it has to be a mix . The 2 wide men were horrendous in that first half yesterday , Saito in particular, so I expect to see Smyth start .
Stéphan has to be careful he doesn’t run Burrell into the ground too.
He’s starting to look shattered and his whole game is just starting to dip . JS they need to work out a plan B for when Burrell isn’t playing and it can’t be Frey and Kone under any circumstance. |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 11:15 - Dec 27 with 822 views | francisbowles |
| Pompey match thread on 17:32 - Dec 26 by Hooparoo |
Poor old Burrell looks like he needs a rest. He covers a lot of miles in a game |
When a younger Paul Smyth part 1 first played for us under Ollie, I think, I seem to remember he played as a striker. He scored a couple of decent goals but was a bit too isolated to be consistent. Now that we play two up top, with his pace and work rate could he be a substitute for Burrell, before we wear Rumarn out completely? | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 11:15 - Dec 27 with 820 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Pompey match thread on 10:33 - Dec 27 by terryb |
If Madsen made it like "playing with 10 men", I think we did well to only be one goal down at half time.
After all, Cook & Mbengue gave the ball to a Portsmouth player every time in the first half, so it would have been 8 against 13!
Thankfully, Mbengue improved in the second half. I'm not sure that Cook did. |
I agree, Mbengue in particular had a very poor 1st Half but would counter both he & Cook stood out for their poor contributions, wheras Madsen just did not contribute
We were fortunate Portsmouth were so poor in the final third & Murphy was out injured otherwise we could have been further behind,
The Manager saw what was wrong & Madsen started the 2nd Half by demanding the ball rather than leaving it to Dunne to transition the ball & we were a different team. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 11:38 - Dec 27 with 771 views | dmm |
| Pompey match thread on 10:50 - Dec 27 by Watford_Ranger |
Did Frey touch the ball? I refuse to believe if we’re chucking someone on when one of the strikers are knackered that Bennie wouldn’t offer at least as much. Good bloke and all that but he’s gone from crap cult hero to just dreadfully crap this season. Give the kid a chance. |
FWIW, Frey touched the ball twice. |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 12:11 - Dec 27 with 708 views | TK1 |
| Pompey match thread on 19:28 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
Why does that conclusion follow from those premises?
Why not feel fed up/angry/disappointed (again)?
Perhaps Nourry and Stephane can explain why the fans who attended shouldn't have half their money refunded as his team could only manage to play half a game (again)?
Our away showings are really becoming shameful. |
"Our away showings are really becoming shameful."
In fact, away from home this season:
P12 W4 D3 L5
Puts QPR 10th in the table away from home, above the likes of parachute clubs Ipswich, Southampton, Sheffield United. Only six clubs have won more.
Your posts are infinitely more shameful, for you (reasonable comedy for everyone else). | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 12:25 - Dec 27 with 669 views | Northernr |
| Pompey match thread on 12:11 - Dec 27 by TK1 |
"Our away showings are really becoming shameful."
In fact, away from home this season:
P12 W4 D3 L5
Puts QPR 10th in the table away from home, above the likes of parachute clubs Ipswich, Southampton, Sheffield United. Only six clubs have won more.
Your posts are infinitely more shameful, for you (reasonable comedy for everyone else). |
If you go back to April it's P15 W7 D3 L5.
We've been pretty good on the road for the last six months. |  | | |
| Pompey match thread on 12:26 - Dec 27 with 656 views | Northernr |
| Pompey match thread on 11:15 - Dec 27 by mart_Goblin |
Hard to give my opinion on yesterday without sounding too negative.
A point away from home isn’t a disaster at all especially with our record but I still think that was a huge chance missed .
Hard to put my finger on exactly what the problem was or is away from home but it seems like multiple things . Do the 2 in midfield sit too deep ? Does this then mean the front 4 can’t press as it’s then too easy for the opponent to get out ?
The difference in ‘the press’ from yesterday to last Saturday was extraordinary.
What is it about playing away from home turns us into horrendous footballers who literally can’t string 2 passes together ? We look dreadful every time we play away recently . Is this mentality or the way we are set up or tactics ?
Not really sure. Maybe all 3 , but we won’t win many games playing like we did in that first half in particular. The worry is it’s becoming the norm away from home .
Those thinking Middlesbrough were some sort of footballing super power should look at their recent results to see that , although they looked very good , we made them look as good as they did .
We were a shambles and we were again yesterday for huge chunks.
We have to try to be more on the front foot against West Brom or we’ll see the same again. I understand he need to be compact , but it has to be a mix . The 2 wide men were horrendous in that first half yesterday , Saito in particular, so I expect to see Smyth start .
Stéphan has to be careful he doesn’t run Burrell into the ground too.
He’s starting to look shattered and his whole game is just starting to dip . JS they need to work out a plan B for when Burrell isn’t playing and it can’t be Frey and Kone under any circumstance. |
Really looking forward to Burrell getting his rest at West Ham and Frey starting there. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 13:08 - Dec 27 with 574 views | Myke |
| Pompey match thread on 12:26 - Dec 27 by Northernr |
Really looking forward to Burrell getting his rest at West Ham and Frey starting there. |
Obviously Frey and Kone cannot play up front together. That has been tried unsuccessfully already this season. However I think both Kone and Burrell need a breather, especially the latter. They were both living on absolute scraps yesterday. But Kone couldn’t make a single ball ‘stick’ and on a couple of occasions when Burrell had a chance to get away from a couple of defenders and I was shouting ‘go on’ at the telly, he was easily dispossessed. Neither stopped trying to their credit, but they both looked spent. If Frey plays it HAS to be as an out and out striker. That’s his position and where he was most effective last season ; Not just in scoring vital goals, but his work rate was phenomenal often providing a one man press on the oppo defence. It is pointless playing him any deeper or as a ‘10’ because he doesn’t have the pace and it is too easy for the CB’s combined with the CM’s to play around him. If Chair is fit then you could start Frey up top with Chair behind him. If Chair is sill out, you could play Bennie behind Frey. Then later when Frey was spent, push Bennie up top and play Kone for the final 20 or so.
I think Dembele should start on the right, with Smth on the left. Saito’s form (bar Leicester) has been poor for some time. Introduce Poku on the hour mark for Dembele. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Field start instead of RND (if he is still here) as the latter looks shattered (at one point yesterday the ball bounced off his right foot and he had to take a yellow to stop a dangerous counter-attack) which the quickest way to pick up a serious injury. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 13:10 - Dec 27 with 575 views | Dorse |
| Pompey match thread on 10:26 - Dec 27 by terryb |
I think he was going to come on for Burrell, but then they needed to change to Field replacing Norrington-Davies |
Is that because Norrington-Davies blocked a full-throated cross with his knackers? I'm sure I heard him shout 'Ha! Missed both my legs...!' as he went down. |  |
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| Pompey match thread on 13:28 - Dec 27 with 533 views | dmm |
| Pompey match thread on 13:10 - Dec 27 by Dorse |
Is that because Norrington-Davies blocked a full-throated cross with his knackers? I'm sure I heard him shout 'Ha! Missed both my legs...!' as he went down. |
Thanks Dorse. That gave me a giggle. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 13:47 - Dec 27 with 478 views | Northernr |
| Pompey match thread on 13:08 - Dec 27 by Myke |
Obviously Frey and Kone cannot play up front together. That has been tried unsuccessfully already this season. However I think both Kone and Burrell need a breather, especially the latter. They were both living on absolute scraps yesterday. But Kone couldn’t make a single ball ‘stick’ and on a couple of occasions when Burrell had a chance to get away from a couple of defenders and I was shouting ‘go on’ at the telly, he was easily dispossessed. Neither stopped trying to their credit, but they both looked spent. If Frey plays it HAS to be as an out and out striker. That’s his position and where he was most effective last season ; Not just in scoring vital goals, but his work rate was phenomenal often providing a one man press on the oppo defence. It is pointless playing him any deeper or as a ‘10’ because he doesn’t have the pace and it is too easy for the CB’s combined with the CM’s to play around him. If Chair is fit then you could start Frey up top with Chair behind him. If Chair is sill out, you could play Bennie behind Frey. Then later when Frey was spent, push Bennie up top and play Kone for the final 20 or so.
I think Dembele should start on the right, with Smth on the left. Saito’s form (bar Leicester) has been poor for some time. Introduce Poku on the hour mark for Dembele. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Field start instead of RND (if he is still here) as the latter looks shattered (at one point yesterday the ball bounced off his right foot and he had to take a yellow to stop a dangerous counter-attack) which the quickest way to pick up a serious injury. |
The big mistake for me yesterday was Saito over Smyth. That was a Paul Smyth game.
Games like that you need your attacking players to attack, which Saito can do, but you also need them to defend and to mix the physical stuff. Smyth is a niggly little prck, perfect for Portsmouth away, Saito's too light and too nice. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 14:14 - Dec 27 with 435 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Pompey match thread on 10:26 - Dec 27 by Addinall |
The Pompey manager said on his in house interview that their first half is the best they've played all season. From my armchair they looked very good to me. Yes we were poor with the ball but didn't have a lot of it.
Their goal had an element of good fortune in that I felt Hamer's view was blocked and he couldn't see it coming. |
When you have Dozzell bossing the game from the centre circle unencumbered, your game plan is simply not working.
Pompey looked good because we gave them the freedom and space to do whatever they liked. Our passive approach was mind boggling. We can’t boss a game for 90 mins, but we have to show more grit and determination than that entire first half.
Varane never appears to move out of second gear to me. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 14:30 - Dec 27 with 406 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Pompey match thread on 11:15 - Dec 27 by francisbowles |
When a younger Paul Smyth part 1 first played for us under Ollie, I think, I seem to remember he played as a striker. He scored a couple of decent goals but was a bit too isolated to be consistent. Now that we play two up top, with his pace and work rate could he be a substitute for Burrell, before we wear Rumarn out completely? |
The famous Smyth and Smith combo if I recall correctly. Perhaps the most big man-little man combo in the history of the club. | | | |
| Pompey match thread on 14:46 - Dec 27 with 368 views | Boston |
| Pompey match thread on 11:38 - Dec 27 by dmm |
FWIW, Frey touched the ball twice. |
With what part of his anatomy? | |
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| Pompey match thread on 15:29 - Dec 27 with 316 views | Rsole |
| Pompey match thread on 13:10 - Dec 27 by Dorse |
Is that because Norrington-Davies blocked a full-throated cross with his knackers? I'm sure I heard him shout 'Ha! Missed both my legs...!' as he went down. |
The artist formerly known as TDN - or Tripod…to his Missus.
I guess it was a case of Left Back at Fratton Park. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Pompey match thread on 15:45 - Dec 27 with 268 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Pompey match thread on 12:26 - Dec 27 by Northernr |
Really looking forward to Burrell getting his rest at West Ham and Frey starting there. |
I have been posting for a while about the big worry Burrell will get hurt from not all the game time/huge effort he produces but he is now well known to every oposition player and they will simply target him to take him out .
JS is being touted as an excellent 3 game per week manager but he is dropping the ball in this regard IMO .Rest Burrell against WBA then play him against SW where he can really do damage . |  | | |
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