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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:32 - Apr 28 with 3118 viewsHunterhoop

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 14:52 - Apr 28 by TK1

It's started...



There’s a Marti Cifuentes bloke there whose stats look decent given the squad he had to work with, who is also available, I think.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:45 - Apr 28 with 2993 viewsjohncharles

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:13 - Apr 28 by 7374Ranger

No I wouldn't expect them to make the team worse and they didn't, until Burrell had to go off. But in all honesty, Burrell did not look fit against Swansea and I would not have elected him against Derby, even if Williams said he was fit.


But JS did and that was a glaring mistake. He should surely have sussed Williams by now

Strong and stable my arse.

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:55 - Apr 28 with 2925 viewsKensalT

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 14:52 - Apr 28 by TK1

It's started...



I'm automatically suspicious of anything that makes Mick Beale look good.

Beale got off to a flier. WLS even had a piece on it at the time:

https://www.westlondonsport.co

Second best start by any new QPR manager since 1980. Only Warburton is ahead of him based on results from their first ten games.

What the data doesn't tell you is that Beale only got one point from his last five games and by then had lost Willock and Amos to lengthy injuries caused by him rushing them back too soon.

The rest of the league had worked him out, he didn't have any answers, and left behind a mess.

Lies, damned lies, etc.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:20 - Apr 28 with 2764 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Or maybe not going......

https://www.westlondonsport.co

Poll: How is Nourry cooking so far ? 🤣

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:22 - Apr 28 with 2753 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:20 - Apr 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Or maybe not going......

https://www.westlondonsport.co


'Play down' is normally code for 'yes, but shut up about it'.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:58 - Apr 28 with 2610 viewsTheChef

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:22 - Apr 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

'Play down' is normally code for 'yes, but shut up about it'.


Well slight difference is Cifuentes was clearly angling for a move and had spoken with West Brom.

I mean Stephan may well be fishing around, but he is very much Nourry's man whereas Cifuentes definitely wasn't.

So I don't think the optics would be very good for Nourry if he opted to sack Stephan.

If Stephan finds himself another job then that's another matter.

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 17:00 - Apr 28 with 2603 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:58 - Apr 28 by TheChef

Well slight difference is Cifuentes was clearly angling for a move and had spoken with West Brom.

I mean Stephan may well be fishing around, but he is very much Nourry's man whereas Cifuentes definitely wasn't.

So I don't think the optics would be very good for Nourry if he opted to sack Stephan.

If Stephan finds himself another job then that's another matter.


I thought when it all came out in the wash, it was far from clear wasn't it? Seemed it was just his agent making an enquiry.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 17:02 - Apr 28 with 2591 viewsTheChef

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 17:00 - Apr 28 by BazzaInTheLoft

I thought when it all came out in the wash, it was far from clear wasn't it? Seemed it was just his agent making an enquiry.


Well yeah, but Nourry was clearly looking for a reason to get rid.

With Stephan it's not so clear cut.

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 17:40 - Apr 28 with 2494 viewscharmr

Until we stop being a payday or a stop gap and become a culture that people want to be involved in nothing will change.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:01 - Apr 28 with 2405 viewsKensalT

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:58 - Apr 28 by TheChef

Well slight difference is Cifuentes was clearly angling for a move and had spoken with West Brom.

I mean Stephan may well be fishing around, but he is very much Nourry's man whereas Cifuentes definitely wasn't.

So I don't think the optics would be very good for Nourry if he opted to sack Stephan.

If Stephan finds himself another job then that's another matter.


There's no hard evidence that Cifuentes was angling for a move.

When the story went public West Brom were very quick to say that he was not on their shortlist.

Given their subsequent managerial appointments are we really supposed to believe West Brom didn't think MC was good enough?

And Cifuentes himself wasn't linked to another job until the Leicester job came up, and that was a good three months after the West Brom job came open.

If Cifuentes was angling for a move he must have been using the wrong bait.
[Post edited 28 Apr 18:12]
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:07 - Apr 28 with 2366 viewsdaveB

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:55 - Apr 28 by KensalT

I'm automatically suspicious of anything that makes Mick Beale look good.

Beale got off to a flier. WLS even had a piece on it at the time:

https://www.westlondonsport.co

Second best start by any new QPR manager since 1980. Only Warburton is ahead of him based on results from their first ten games.

What the data doesn't tell you is that Beale only got one point from his last five games and by then had lost Willock and Amos to lengthy injuries caused by him rushing them back too soon.

The rest of the league had worked him out, he didn't have any answers, and left behind a mess.

Lies, damned lies, etc.


We'll never know with Beale if he'd have got us out of that run and finished higher up the league.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:09 - Apr 28 with 2357 viewsdaveB

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:58 - Apr 28 by TheChef

Well slight difference is Cifuentes was clearly angling for a move and had spoken with West Brom.

I mean Stephan may well be fishing around, but he is very much Nourry's man whereas Cifuentes definitely wasn't.

So I don't think the optics would be very good for Nourry if he opted to sack Stephan.

If Stephan finds himself another job then that's another matter.


That was the narrative at the time. Not sure how true that was in reality though and it was pretty clear that Hoos and Nourry anted him gone. Hoos was openly slating Marti towards the end of the season
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:12 - Apr 28 with 2341 viewsdaveB

Rumour in the Conningham last few games has been we're after Filipe Luís and he'll be appointed in the summer. I assumed it was rubbish but have seen his name start to appear on X linked with us now
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:25 - Apr 28 with 2290 viewsKensalT

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:07 - Apr 28 by daveB

We'll never know with Beale if he'd have got us out of that run and finished higher up the league.


True!

But looking at how his career has gone since he left us I see no reason to believe he could have turned us around.

And none of the players he signed for us has gone on to bigger and better things.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:32 - Apr 28 with 2257 viewsTK1

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 16:58 - Apr 28 by TheChef

Well slight difference is Cifuentes was clearly angling for a move and had spoken with West Brom.

I mean Stephan may well be fishing around, but he is very much Nourry's man whereas Cifuentes definitely wasn't.

So I don't think the optics would be very good for Nourry if he opted to sack Stephan.

If Stephan finds himself another job then that's another matter.


When Nourry joined QPR, he made a big thing about being key in recruiting Cifuentes. So, he definitely was his man - until he wasn't. From the official announcement:

"In the summer, Nourry led on RETEXO’s detailed audit of QPR, which was commissioned by the club’s owners. As part of this project, RETEXO were instrumental in the club’s identification and recruitment of Director of Performance Ben Williams and Head Coach Martí Cifuentes."

https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/202

There's really no difference, if we take club and Nourry's own word.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:33 - Apr 28 with 2243 viewsMick_S

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:12 - Apr 28 by daveB

Rumour in the Conningham last few games has been we're after Filipe Luís and he'll be appointed in the summer. I assumed it was rubbish but have seen his name start to appear on X linked with us now


Is he nuts as well as the others? Or whoever is next.

It’s a game. May as well stick a ‘d on your surname.

Until the injury/fitness is sorted, nobody is fixing anything at Rangers.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:45 - Apr 28 with 2185 viewsTK1

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:12 - Apr 28 by daveB

Rumour in the Conningham last few games has been we're after Filipe Luís and he'll be appointed in the summer. I assumed it was rubbish but have seen his name start to appear on X linked with us now


I'd be happier if he was our new left back. Even at 40, probably a better bet than any at our level.

That manager rumour came out on Sport Witness ten days ago, but had the feel of agent kite flying as it was us and Boro. Since then, he's now being touted in quite a few places as the new Chelsea coach, neck and neck with Fabregas. None of this - other than Fabregas to CFC - feels likely.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:51 - Apr 28 with 2145 viewskensalriser

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 15:55 - Apr 28 by KensalT

I'm automatically suspicious of anything that makes Mick Beale look good.

Beale got off to a flier. WLS even had a piece on it at the time:

https://www.westlondonsport.co

Second best start by any new QPR manager since 1980. Only Warburton is ahead of him based on results from their first ten games.

What the data doesn't tell you is that Beale only got one point from his last five games and by then had lost Willock and Amos to lengthy injuries caused by him rushing them back too soon.

The rest of the league had worked him out, he didn't have any answers, and left behind a mess.

Lies, damned lies, etc.


It's comparing one manager's 22 matches against another's 150. And it ignores every single other metric such as the quality of the players. Win ratios are essentially bullshit.
[Post edited 28 Apr 18:53]

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:52 - Apr 28 with 2141 viewskensalriser

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:12 - Apr 28 by daveB

Rumour in the Conningham last few games has been we're after Filipe Luís and he'll be appointed in the summer. I assumed it was rubbish but have seen his name start to appear on X linked with us now


Oh yeah, this one again. Managed Flamengo, can't wait to manage a side targeting 15th in the Championship. Come on now.

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 19:10 - Apr 28 with 2070 viewsNorthernr

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:32 - Apr 28 by TK1

When Nourry joined QPR, he made a big thing about being key in recruiting Cifuentes. So, he definitely was his man - until he wasn't. From the official announcement:

"In the summer, Nourry led on RETEXO’s detailed audit of QPR, which was commissioned by the club’s owners. As part of this project, RETEXO were instrumental in the club’s identification and recruitment of Director of Performance Ben Williams and Head Coach Martí Cifuentes."

https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/202

There's really no difference, if we take club and Nourry's own word.


As I’ve pointed out previously though mate, if you put “Marti Cifuentes” into a news search on this site you’ll see we said he was v much in the frame either side of Beale, we went with Critchley. Nourry was still at Anderlecht or Roma or The Guardian or wherever it was at that point.

Cifuentes subsequently got the job a year later, and was very popular. Nourry then said he led on the appointment.

I guess it is possible that I sat there in November 2022 and completely plucked the Hammarby manager from thin air, but I’d say it’s unlikely. I’m good, but not that good
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 19:19 - Apr 28 with 2036 viewscaptainmycaptian

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 14:52 - Apr 28 by TK1

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Ffs can we not.do this give him.an injury free season and a bit of experince players and we mighy just becime a team thats hard to score against and therefor win more. We might just have a chance of getting some where. Who do these people want ?
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 19:26 - Apr 28 with 2016 viewsTK1

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 19:10 - Apr 28 by Northernr

As I’ve pointed out previously though mate, if you put “Marti Cifuentes” into a news search on this site you’ll see we said he was v much in the frame either side of Beale, we went with Critchley. Nourry was still at Anderlecht or Roma or The Guardian or wherever it was at that point.

Cifuentes subsequently got the job a year later, and was very popular. Nourry then said he led on the appointment.

I guess it is possible that I sat there in November 2022 and completely plucked the Hammarby manager from thin air, but I’d say it’s unlikely. I’m good, but not that good


Obviously, he's a massive bullshtter. We know that. It's why he's in the gig.

With that in mind, Cifuentes *was* his man when Nourry was announced, back when Marti was new and shiny and popular immediately too. Whether he had any remote say in it or not, he hitched his wagon to the Marti party straight away. And I remember another interview at some later point that first season when he was at pains to say how well he worked with (extravagant pronunciation) "Mar-teee and Shavi".

But as much as he's a bullshtter, he obviously a very insecure narcissist and as soon as one has questioned him publicly or I imagine privately, he's no longer on your team. Which is what Marti and Stephan seem to have in common here.

Though I've been thinking about it, and I wonder if he'll be reigned in. It's a bad look for the club. Or whether JS has had enough anyway.
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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 20:09 - Apr 28 with 1913 viewsRsole

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 13:16 - Apr 28 by Northernr

Anyone know if that apartment he's got in TVC comes with a garden?


Yes, but there are squatters….literally curling them out.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 20:16 - Apr 28 with 1888 viewsRsole

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 14:52 - Apr 28 by TK1

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Inevitable…..he was always going to be the stooge and scapegoat.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 22:24 - Apr 28 with 1726 viewsmart_Goblin

Julian Stepháne…stick or twist on 18:45 - Apr 28 by TK1

I'd be happier if he was our new left back. Even at 40, probably a better bet than any at our level.

That manager rumour came out on Sport Witness ten days ago, but had the feel of agent kite flying as it was us and Boro. Since then, he's now being touted in quite a few places as the new Chelsea coach, neck and neck with Fabregas. None of this - other than Fabregas to CFC - feels likely.


Seen in and around LR a week or so ago but that could be for any number of reasons .

However , with history starting to repeat itself and remembering a French ‘contingent’ was ever present at LR for the last 5 or 6 games of last season , you can see why rumours are rife .
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