| Cantona 23:49 - Sep 23 with 2120 views | hopekillsyou |
Good to see Eric Cantona speak out against Ratcliffe and say that he wouldn’t have signed for Man United if Ratcliffe had been a major shareholder back then. ( Well, maybe a bit too easy to make a statement like that but Cantona was always an unusual footballer and I suspect that he did ( and does ) have principles and blah blah.
Not that I didn’t hate him after THAT game - in the season we went down under Ray Wilkins . I was seated behind the home goal in the loft and we were leading 1-0 ( forget who scored ) and United were piling on the pressure and the referee allowed 6 minutes ( in those days unheard of…) minutes of injury time and with sinking hearts all around and notwithstanding a desperate defence, Cantona scored ( I think it was in the 93rd or 94th minute but it was a long time ago). And that’s when I knew we would get relegated that season. [Post edited 23 Sep 23:51]
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| Cantona on 23:53 - Sep 23 with 1818 views | CiderwithRsie |
A long time ago? The bloody ref has only just got round to blowing. | | | |
| Cantona on 03:41 - Sep 24 with 1612 views | Lblock |
So many “principles” that he made the (very rare back then) move from Leeds to Manchester - hated rivals.
I seem to recall the move was all about Leslie Ash and piles of cash
No issue with Ratcliffe myself
Seen a few things he’s said about OGB and tge state of things, can’t disagree |  |
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| Cantona on 09:08 - Sep 24 with 1320 views | ericgen34 |
I was there too, behind the goal. Danny Dichio scored that goal
Can't help liking Cantona myself, although that afternoon I very much hated his guts |  | | |
| Cantona on 10:33 - Sep 24 with 1191 views | Konk |
Someone very close to me worked closely with Ratcliffe for a number of years on various projects, and found him to be a deeply, deeply unpleasant person, who was absolutely vile in the way he treated people. |  |
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| Cantona on 11:02 - Sep 24 with 1125 views | T_Block |
Met him about two years ago.Came across as very thoughtful.I think he is proud of the country ,isn’t what I would call racist in any way.I sensed he could be quite hardline but he is a business man and economics makes people a bit more forthright as they have to be,and I find that realistically hard to criticise.
Very very split country.Those who think it is right to call out what they see as racist and those genuinely fearing for the economic survival of the country and its very ancient laws and morality in the face of an uncompromising Muslim culture that cannot criticise its own worst acts and view any outside criticism as anti-Muslim. | | | |
| Cantona on 11:13 - Sep 24 with 1095 views | Watford_Ranger |
With any luck they’ll kill each other. | | | |
| Cantona on 11:34 - Sep 24 with 1029 views | Konk |
| Cantona on 11:02 - Sep 24 by T_Block |
Met him about two years ago.Came across as very thoughtful.I think he is proud of the country ,isn’t what I would call racist in any way.I sensed he could be quite hardline but he is a business man and economics makes people a bit more forthright as they have to be,and I find that realistically hard to criticise.
Very very split country.Those who think it is right to call out what they see as racist and those genuinely fearing for the economic survival of the country and its very ancient laws and morality in the face of an uncompromising Muslim culture that cannot criticise its own worst acts and view any outside criticism as anti-Muslim. |
If he's that concerned about the country and it's economic future, I wonder if he shares the view that the country might be in better economic and social shape, if 73 year old self-declared British patriots worth £15bn+ didn't go into tax exile in Monaco? | |
| Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts |
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| Cantona on 11:37 - Sep 24 with 1018 views | stowmarketrange |
| Cantona on 11:34 - Sep 24 by Konk |
If he's that concerned about the country and it's economic future, I wonder if he shares the view that the country might be in better economic and social shape, if 73 year old self-declared British patriots worth £15bn+ didn't go into tax exile in Monaco? |
Exactly Konk.If he was that patriotic he would be paying tax in the country he claims to love. |  | | |
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| Cantona on 11:39 - Sep 24 with 1002 views | QPunkR |
| Cantona on 11:34 - Sep 24 by Konk |
If he's that concerned about the country and it's economic future, I wonder if he shares the view that the country might be in better economic and social shape, if 73 year old self-declared British patriots worth £15bn+ didn't go into tax exile in Monaco? |
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| Cantona on 11:43 - Sep 24 with 989 views | kensalriser |
Ratcliffe is incontrovertibly a racist. He's also a polluter and climate destroyer who doesn't live in Britain and doesn't pay tax in Britain, so any of his opinions on Britain are worthless junk. It's he and his fellow venal billionaires who are destroying the fabric of this country, traitors to a man.
Cantona is fine by me. Can't fault him for doing his job. He wasn't the ref. |  |
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| Cantona on 11:46 - Sep 24 with 976 views | kensalriser |
| Cantona on 11:02 - Sep 24 by T_Block |
Met him about two years ago.Came across as very thoughtful.I think he is proud of the country ,isn’t what I would call racist in any way.I sensed he could be quite hardline but he is a business man and economics makes people a bit more forthright as they have to be,and I find that realistically hard to criticise.
Very very split country.Those who think it is right to call out what they see as racist and those genuinely fearing for the economic survival of the country and its very ancient laws and morality in the face of an uncompromising Muslim culture that cannot criticise its own worst acts and view any outside criticism as anti-Muslim. |
Well, it's not a surprise that you didn't find a racist to be a racist when you're espousing racist views yourself. | |
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| Cantona on 12:19 - Sep 24 with 862 views | hubble |
Here we go again.... Three weeks is far too long for an international break. |  |
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| Cantona on 12:26 - Sep 24 with 835 views | CamberleyR |
| Cantona on 23:53 - Sep 23 by CiderwithRsie |
A long time ago? The bloody ref has only just got round to blowing. |
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| Cantona on 13:23 - Sep 24 with 699 views | R_from_afar |
| Cantona on 11:34 - Sep 24 by Konk |
If he's that concerned about the country and it's economic future, I wonder if he shares the view that the country might be in better economic and social shape, if 73 year old self-declared British patriots worth £15bn+ didn't go into tax exile in Monaco? |
Around 450 jobs have been cut at ManUre during his tenure... |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Cantona on 13:44 - Sep 24 with 657 views | Orthodox_Hoop |
| Cantona on 12:19 - Sep 24 by hubble |
Here we go again.... Three weeks is far too long for an international break. |
Agreed. Although, popcorn at the ready if this thread kicks off. |  | | |
| Cantona on 13:50 - Sep 24 with 641 views | Gloucs_R |
Pops head in, looks around the room, closes the door....locking it behind him.
Cup of rosey and a hobnob anyone? |  |
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| Cantona on 14:01 - Sep 24 with 618 views | LongRanger |
| Cantona on 13:23 - Sep 24 by R_from_afar |
Around 450 jobs have been cut at ManUre during his tenure... |
In fairness those 450 jobs saved them enough to pay Rashford 6 months salary!  | | | |
| Cantona on 14:07 - Sep 24 with 596 views | ted_hendrix |
Cantona scored In the96th minute. |  |
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| Cantona on 14:19 - Sep 24 with 563 views | rbee |
| Cantona on 14:07 - Sep 24 by ted_hendrix |
Cantona scored In the96th minute. |
Just before that Sinclair could have taken the ball to the corner flag but took a shot instead.
All the talk in the Crown and Sceptre afterwards was the Fergie Time even from the United fans. |  | | |
| Cantona on 14:40 - Sep 24 with 519 views | T_Block |
As I said very divided.Reflex racism heckle.Sad thing is I actually think you believe I am.
I was simply suggesting there are some perfectly legitimate criticisms of Islam as there is Christianity.Does that make me a racist? The reason I mentioned the former is that I believe it could become a serious threat to a tolerant society.
Reflex hatred of rich entrepreneurs will not make anything better either | | | |
| Cantona on 14:46 - Sep 24 with 485 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Cantona on 14:40 - Sep 24 by T_Block |
As I said very divided.Reflex racism heckle.Sad thing is I actually think you believe I am.
I was simply suggesting there are some perfectly legitimate criticisms of Islam as there is Christianity.Does that make me a racist? The reason I mentioned the former is that I believe it could become a serious threat to a tolerant society.
Reflex hatred of rich entrepreneurs will not make anything better either |
An obvious example is what would happen if a cartoonist published a caricature of Muhammad...
A liberal democracy is incompatible with hardline Islam. | | | |
| Cantona on 17:00 - Sep 24 with 312 views | Clive_Anderson |
| Cantona on 14:40 - Sep 24 by T_Block |
As I said very divided.Reflex racism heckle.Sad thing is I actually think you believe I am.
I was simply suggesting there are some perfectly legitimate criticisms of Islam as there is Christianity.Does that make me a racist? The reason I mentioned the former is that I believe it could become a serious threat to a tolerant society.
Reflex hatred of rich entrepreneurs will not make anything better either |
The rabid hatred for some businessman who has done well for himself and points out some obvious problems is way over the top. The energy costs in this country are closing down industry due to net zero and other such nonsense.
And Cantona is a violent thug who jumped into the crowd to attack a fan and then played the race card afterwards to encourage Man Utd fans to attack and harass the victim for years afterwards. | | | |
| Cantona on 17:04 - Sep 24 with 308 views | E17hoop |
| Cantona on 10:33 - Sep 24 by Konk |
Someone very close to me worked closely with Ratcliffe for a number of years on various projects, and found him to be a deeply, deeply unpleasant person, who was absolutely vile in the way he treated people. |
Have heard something similar. He says he doesn't suffer fools, but he's so much nastier than that, always looking for an edge. Makes Alan Sugar look reasonable. |  |
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| Cantona on 17:26 - Sep 24 with 254 views | T_Block |
I worry that criticising high earners will get us nowhere.It is a delicate balancing act.Income tax is so bias against high earners that the top 10% of earners pay something like 60-70% of all income tax.When the revolut bank founder left for Dubai recently his tax bill was the equivalent of 50,000 median earners.
This is serious as if the international money markets stop lending to the uk as we are considered a bad risk then the actual vulnerable -the disabled and fragile old will be left to suffer while the haters of the rich are demonstrating in the streets.
The secret is to sort it before the crunch.Yes perhaps tax the rich a little more,pay for the NHS later like they do in some European countries by direct health insurance with the state,but do not hate them and spit envy bile.I suspect you would have to live a thousand lifetimes to match what Radcliffe has paid in tax to the UK.
Encourage , have a system with incentives.I am old now and have seen socialism go to far again and again in the name of doing good.It always ends in the same anger filled hateful way when the money runs out.You have to earn the money first then perhaps you can help the poor-don’t end up taking money off the almost poor to help the undeserving. [Post edited 24 Sep 17:41]
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| Cantona on 17:28 - Sep 24 with 252 views | bosh67 |
| Cantona on 10:33 - Sep 24 by Konk |
Someone very close to me worked closely with Ratcliffe for a number of years on various projects, and found him to be a deeply, deeply unpleasant person, who was absolutely vile in the way he treated people. |
And that was his mum!
Yes I have heard he is absolutely horrific. You can tell by some of his views in life. How do wretched creatures like this amass such fortunes and why are they allowed to? |  |
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