| England vs Germany match thread 09:19 - Jun 27 with 22286 views | traininvain |
I know it’s a bit early but let’s have your England starting 11’s and see if anyone gets it right. I’ll go first:
Pickford
James
Walker
Stones
Maguire
Shaw
Bellingham
Rice
Sterling
Kane
Saka
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| England vs Germany match thread on 10:06 - Jun 29 with 1736 views | TheChef |
| England vs Germany match thread on 09:56 - Jun 29 by gazza1 |
Tonight's the night!!
We can win, we are good enough, we have some very good players.
Southgate to pick the right team & tactics and we will be OK.
Hope he starts Pickford, Walker, Maguire, Stones, Phillips, Sterling, Grealish, Foden, Kane and 2 others, don't mind who but I want them all to play their natural positions, no rb playing LB!! Formation at the back either 2 or 3 CB's, both are good with me. Be positive and brave, move the ball quicker.
Thats it in a nutshell. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 10:00]
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Unfortunately I don't think Southgate has it in him to be too brave, despite the attacking talent at his disposal.
We need to score first otherwise I think we will struggle. |  |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 10:09 - Jun 29 with 1729 views | traininvain |
I do worry that we might be underestimating the Germans a little bit. They looked average in a difficult group but they usually find their feet in the knockouts.
I don’t subscribe to this view that it’s an over the hill German team. They have an experienced spine of the team (Neuer, Hummels, Kroos, Gundogan and Muller) with some exciting young players to compliment the experience (Gnabry, Kimmich and Musiala).
Personally I think it’s a 50/50 game which could go either way. Hopefully England will get the rub of the green for once! | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:14 - Jun 29 with 1704 views | gazza1 |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:06 - Jun 29 by TheChef |
Unfortunately I don't think Southgate has it in him to be too brave, despite the attacking talent at his disposal.
We need to score first otherwise I think we will struggle. |
I just don't know about Southgate.....I find some of his decisions difficult to understand but we are good enough anyways to do well tonight. |  | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:15 - Jun 29 with 1700 views | gazza1 |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:09 - Jun 29 by traininvain |
I do worry that we might be underestimating the Germans a little bit. They looked average in a difficult group but they usually find their feet in the knockouts.
I don’t subscribe to this view that it’s an over the hill German team. They have an experienced spine of the team (Neuer, Hummels, Kroos, Gundogan and Muller) with some exciting young players to compliment the experience (Gnabry, Kimmich and Musiala).
Personally I think it’s a 50/50 game which could go either way. Hopefully England will get the rub of the green for once! |
Yeh, it is tight but I am very confident in our players......i think we have the edge but doesn't mean that we will win. | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:44 - Jun 29 with 1656 views | Konk |
Billy Grant the confident Brentford fan has been on the BBC News for about seven hours this morning. He's sat in his front room, and for some reason he's wearing what appears to be a small child's hat made of paper. He thinks we'll win. |  |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 10:47 - Jun 29 with 1649 views | GloryHunter |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:44 - Jun 29 by Konk |
Billy Grant the confident Brentford fan has been on the BBC News for about seven hours this morning. He's sat in his front room, and for some reason he's wearing what appears to be a small child's hat made of paper. He thinks we'll win. |
What happened to that octopus that used to predict the correct results? |  | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:51 - Jun 29 with 1640 views | CiderwithRsie |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:47 - Jun 29 by GloryHunter |
What happened to that octopus that used to predict the correct results? |
He now owns Fulham. | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:51 - Jun 29 with 1638 views | BazzeR |
| England vs Germany match thread on 09:33 - Jun 29 by TheChef |
Er, nope!
When was that? |
Harry Kane slams referee decision for ‘bottling’ Danny Welbecks goal v Spain in England’s opening game in Nations League game in Sept 2018.
This ref is no stranger to controversy with Ronaldo storming off the pitch in a World Cup game with Serbia in March 2021 after a last min winner wasn’t given. | | | |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 10:54 - Jun 29 with 1626 views | TheChef |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:51 - Jun 29 by BazzeR |
Harry Kane slams referee decision for ‘bottling’ Danny Welbecks goal v Spain in England’s opening game in Nations League game in Sept 2018.
This ref is no stranger to controversy with Ronaldo storming off the pitch in a World Cup game with Serbia in March 2021 after a last min winner wasn’t given. |
Always good to get our excuses in early  | |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 11:08 - Jun 29 with 1604 views | Metallica_Hoop |
| England vs Germany match thread on 10:47 - Jun 29 by GloryHunter |
What happened to that octopus that used to predict the correct results? |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ RIP
"Rabio the Octopus who correctly predicted the results of all of Japan’s group stage games at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, was killed and sent to market, on 2 July 2018 by the Japanese fisherman who had caught it." Bastards. |  |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 11:59 - Jun 29 with 1530 views | DavieQPR |
Not much incentive when the Sweet F.A. tell Southgate his contract will be renewed regardless of result. Just hope he doesn't go 5 at the back with 2 DM and Kane forgets about taking knees and rainbow armbands and concentrates on what he is paid to do. Stick the ball in the net. |  | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:03 - Jun 29 with 1519 views | Myke |
| England vs Germany match thread on 11:08 - Jun 29 by Metallica_Hoop |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ RIP
"Rabio the Octopus who correctly predicted the results of all of Japan’s group stage games at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, was killed and sent to market, on 2 July 2018 by the Japanese fisherman who had caught it." Bastards. |
If England have the right mentality and approach the game in the right way, they will win comfortably, if they don't ,they won't. This is not a strong German team. If England attack them they will score goals, if they sit back, the Germans could win 1-0 | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:07 - Jun 29 with 1505 views | kensalriser |
Southgate is an out of his depth clueless FA yes man who should never have got the job when there were so many obviously better candidates and is the worst manager in 50 years apart from all the others who haven’t done as well as he has and he should be winning the competition easily with these players.
Just thought I’d get that in early. |  |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 12:18 - Jun 29 with 1485 views | Dixie_CT |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:07 - Jun 29 by kensalriser |
Southgate is an out of his depth clueless FA yes man who should never have got the job when there were so many obviously better candidates and is the worst manager in 50 years apart from all the others who haven’t done as well as he has and he should be winning the competition easily with these players.
Just thought I’d get that in early. |
Who were and are the better candidates?
El Tel or Bobby Robson for me were perfect international managers. Decent coaches, respected by the media, charasmatic and players like to play for them.
Not to many of those types around anymore! Especially not to many of those types who want to move from club football to international. |  | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:32 - Jun 29 with 1444 views | TW_R |
| England vs Germany match thread on 11:08 - Jun 29 by Metallica_Hoop |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ RIP
"Rabio the Octopus who correctly predicted the results of all of Japan’s group stage games at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, was killed and sent to market, on 2 July 2018 by the Japanese fisherman who had caught it." Bastards. |
I bet he didn’t predict that! |  | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:37 - Jun 29 with 1423 views | TheChef |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:18 - Jun 29 by Dixie_CT |
Who were and are the better candidates?
El Tel or Bobby Robson for me were perfect international managers. Decent coaches, respected by the media, charasmatic and players like to play for them.
Not to many of those types around anymore! Especially not to many of those types who want to move from club football to international. |
Good to have that ready to copy and paste in the morning!
But yeah I' m not sure who the better candidates out there are (or at least English/British ones). And as we've seen international management is very different to club management, just look at how Capello got on, or didn't. | |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 12:43 - Jun 29 with 1409 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:18 - Jun 29 by Dixie_CT |
Who were and are the better candidates?
El Tel or Bobby Robson for me were perfect international managers. Decent coaches, respected by the media, charasmatic and players like to play for them.
Not to many of those types around anymore! Especially not to many of those types who want to move from club football to international. |
I think Kensal was being facetious but for the record both El Tel (47%) and Bobby (49%) both have worse win rates than Southgate (61%).
Also equalled their achievements at international level. I’d argue both of them had better players than Southgate too.
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| England vs Germany match thread on 13:06 - Jun 29 with 1357 views | toboboly |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:43 - Jun 29 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think Kensal was being facetious but for the record both El Tel (47%) and Bobby (49%) both have worse win rates than Southgate (61%).
Also equalled their achievements at international level. I’d argue both of them had better players than Southgate too.
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But also had a more competitive international environment? I know San Marino were about but these days it seems like every other game is against someone who has never kicked a ball. |  |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 13:07 - Jun 29 with 1354 views | Dixie_CT |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:43 - Jun 29 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think Kensal was being facetious but for the record both El Tel (47%) and Bobby (49%) both have worse win rates than Southgate (61%).
Also equalled their achievements at international level. I’d argue both of them had better players than Southgate too.
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Looking at wiki, Sven and Capello also had pretty decent win percentages but I think the manager of England lives and dies on public perception and romance rather than performance.
Of course you can change that with some good performances, like Southgate has, but we can be such an emotive nation that results are quickly forgotten if you're not a darling of the masses. | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 13:26 - Jun 29 with 1313 views | TheChef |
| England vs Germany match thread on 13:07 - Jun 29 by Dixie_CT |
Looking at wiki, Sven and Capello also had pretty decent win percentages but I think the manager of England lives and dies on public perception and romance rather than performance.
Of course you can change that with some good performances, like Southgate has, but we can be such an emotive nation that results are quickly forgotten if you're not a darling of the masses. |
Well good performances are subjective but in the end a win is a win. Or at least that seems to be the Southgate approach so far. | |
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| England vs Germany match thread on 13:45 - Jun 29 with 1286 views | gazza1 |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:07 - Jun 29 by kensalriser |
Southgate is an out of his depth clueless FA yes man who should never have got the job when there were so many obviously better candidates and is the worst manager in 50 years apart from all the others who haven’t done as well as he has and he should be winning the competition easily with these players.
Just thought I’d get that in early. |
Harsh Kensal, very harsh. He is not my 'best friend' but not sure that he is quite as bad as that!!! | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 13:51 - Jun 29 with 1279 views | Dixie_CT |
| England vs Germany match thread on 13:26 - Jun 29 by TheChef |
Well good performances are subjective but in the end a win is a win. Or at least that seems to be the Southgate approach so far. |
Sorry, I meant performance of the team in tournaments rather an individual game.
Southgate does seem to be going for pragmatism rather than pizazz. Fine by me if we go onto win it. | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 13:55 - Jun 29 with 1265 views | gazza1 |
| England vs Germany match thread on 12:43 - Jun 29 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I think Kensal was being facetious but for the record both El Tel (47%) and Bobby (49%) both have worse win rates than Southgate (61%).
Also equalled their achievements at international level. I’d argue both of them had better players than Southgate too.
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Stats eh......make what you want of them but it is far too simplistic (& therefore meaningless) to credit Southgate as better records than others.....for example, friendlies are more friendly than ever, weak teams are played so much in qualifying competitions that the result is not in question. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 13:56]
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| England vs Germany match thread on 14:03 - Jun 29 with 1249 views | Malintabuk |
With half of England finishing work with in the next hour im starting to get a little stiffy on as Joe Royale would say
Evans just won at Wimbledon and it looks very much as the cricket team are comfortable.... so a treble on the cards with an England win.......... oh dear will I never learn
I really think we have enough to win tonight but you just know you know
Every game in these knockout stages have been exciting affairs where the teams going for it have won.... we all know that tonight we are going to be 20 passes to the half way line.... allowing the Jermans to stroll back and get 9 behind the ball
But in Southers we trust and tonight will be the night where it all comes together and we click....... so 0-0 penalties and perm anyone of 11 an English man being consoled on the half way line as the Jermans go wild...... bloody pessimist Iam
But we will win promise | | | |
| England vs Germany match thread on 14:29 - Jun 29 with 1189 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
England to advance and with France out the door is completely open to finally win the big one .
Germany have injury issues are suspect at the back and their keeper once a rock appears to be showing his nerves and making careless mistakes.
Harry Kane will deliver tonight he is too good and loves the big stage .Give him a supply he will bury them |  | | |
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