| We Live to Fight Again 15:31 - Jan 28 with 10649 views | BrianMcCarthy |
All to fight for.
Have to stay positive. Have to believe.
Poor today, but ultimately an offside goal cost us the win. |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 20:20 - Jan 28 with 2083 views | Phildo |
| We Live to Fight Again on 18:58 - Jan 28 by GaryBannister86 |
Yeah I don't know how people can accuse the team of giving up when they've given up themselves on us staying up when we are 3 points adrift with 17 games to go?!
I saw it as a total bonus to get anything out of the game having played so poorly.
Day not helped by an utter coked-up moron in the safe standing doing his best to ruin everyone's day. Pushing and shoving in the home end with a bunch of 50+ year olds for having the temerity to ask him to leave them alone. Grow up mate and spend your day snorting it up your hooter in the comfort of your own living room. |
That incident was my mate who has been gong to rangers for 40 years -as you said the coked up idiot was pestering him and another fella not with our party in between popping out every 10 minutes for a snort. Asked him to stop politely a few times but he kept at it and it then became a bit of a shouting match. Where do we find these wired bell ends that ruin it - there were plenty of young kids sitting around too who had to witness that. |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 20:35 - Jan 28 with 2024 views | baz_qpr |
Bottom line is the players froze under the pressure, our more senior players, Colback, Dykes, Chair, Paal (first half). Failed to turn up, I thought only Armstrong and Willock offered anything 1st half and Willock was very poor 2nd half. Cannon injury upset us. We could find no way out of Huddersfields press, and seemed reluctant to Colback particularly going all Dozzell on us first half.
Dykes has no impact in the game and failed to press properly. Ilias was too deep as well. Colback too deep. Begovic made the wrong decisions time and time again with the ball. I had Gallens words ringing in my ears from the WLS podcast yes it was a must win but more importantly it was a must not lose and that seemed to really effect the players IMHO.
Ref was terrible, never played advantage, overly fussy, kept stopping play, bought their play acting. Their goal looked offside to me.
People will be pissed but Cook and JCS kept us in that game.
We live on just... |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 21:26 - Jan 28 with 1920 views | FredManRave |
| We Live to Fight Again on 19:46 - Jan 28 by dmm |
Field is on 10 yellows and misses 2 games. Colback is on 9 yellows. |
Colback will probably get a yellow in training this week and miss the next 2 games as well.
QPR Innit. |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 21:39 - Jan 28 with 1889 views | QPRConor2000 |
How we got a point out of that is beyond me.
When Koroma scored for Huddersfield, I thought with a 6 point gap that would be that.
But Paal kept the gap to 3 points.
I think that goal could be what could be the difference come May, but boy we were lucky. |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 21:43 - Jan 28 with 1871 views | Bluce_Ree |
| We Live to Fight Again on 17:56 - Jan 28 by loftus77 |
Yep, sorry to pile in (Brian). I really salute your optimism but it's over - and has been for a long time.
Man-for-man (and with this coach), we could be just about good enough to scrape the most unlikeliest of survivals if we were miraculously lucky on the injury front.
But, even with all that in place, your team collectively has to really and genuinely care - for the club, its fans and its future. It has, as a body of men, be up for it, united and want it. Our lot patently, evidently and demonstrably do not - for whatever reason(s).
Forget about today's crucial game, take a look again at those Watford 'highlights' and Livermore's goals. Ignore him, and concentrate what our defenders/players are actually doing positioning-wise in the two build-ups. There is no intent to pressure the ball at all IMHO and this is one example of many. The playing out from the back in the Cardiff home game - utterly woeful.
Would love to be wrong - but League One in August is certain. [Post edited 28 Jan 17:58]
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"Have to stay positive. Have to believe."
I don't have to do shit. I've got more reason to believe in the musical credibility of Milli Vanilli. |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 22:00 - Jan 28 with 1782 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We Live to Fight Again on 20:20 - Jan 28 by Phildo |
That incident was my mate who has been gong to rangers for 40 years -as you said the coked up idiot was pestering him and another fella not with our party in between popping out every 10 minutes for a snort. Asked him to stop politely a few times but he kept at it and it then became a bit of a shouting match. Where do we find these wired bell ends that ruin it - there were plenty of young kids sitting around too who had to witness that. |
Yeah that other fella he pestered was me and my son. What a total arse he was and I've no idea what his mates were doing either. Please send your mate my regards and I hope he is OK. | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 22:59 - Jan 28 with 1675 views | Antti_Heinola |
| We Live to Fight Again on 19:06 - Jan 28 by HoopinEssex |
Thank God for that goal. It gives us an outside chance
But the biggest worry is the enthusiasm,intensity and heart is lacking. We were dominated for long periods by a poor Huddersfield team who just wanted it more.
Just finished watching the Newport v Man u game. Newport really played as if their lives depended on it. If only we had the same attitude.
Like the Brian says. We live to again. But it's not looking good |
'dominated for long periods'
come on mate, we're all angry and disappointed, but they were utterly rubbish. They just had a load of corners. They didn't dominate squat. |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 23:03 - Jan 28 with 1664 views | Antti_Heinola |
| We Live to Fight Again on 20:35 - Jan 28 by baz_qpr |
Bottom line is the players froze under the pressure, our more senior players, Colback, Dykes, Chair, Paal (first half). Failed to turn up, I thought only Armstrong and Willock offered anything 1st half and Willock was very poor 2nd half. Cannon injury upset us. We could find no way out of Huddersfields press, and seemed reluctant to Colback particularly going all Dozzell on us first half.
Dykes has no impact in the game and failed to press properly. Ilias was too deep as well. Colback too deep. Begovic made the wrong decisions time and time again with the ball. I had Gallens words ringing in my ears from the WLS podcast yes it was a must win but more importantly it was a must not lose and that seemed to really effect the players IMHO.
Ref was terrible, never played advantage, overly fussy, kept stopping play, bought their play acting. Their goal looked offside to me.
People will be pissed but Cook and JCS kept us in that game.
We live on just... |
Ilias had a quiet game but he put in four superb balls that all should have been converted. Only one was.
Let's hope Michi knows where to stand.
I watched the Newport game tonight and Evans was light years ahead of our strikers. The move he did for his goal, that run IN FRONT of the defender to the front post, is a run Dykes and Armstrong never do (see how on his heels Armstrong was when Smyth played in a low ball) - it was brilliant. We need someone like him. | |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 23:09 - Jan 28 with 1650 views | Midlands_Ranger |
We were shite but we still got a point.....yep it's still all to fight for.....but will we fight? Maybe we will...maybe we will get lucky...or maybe we will just go down....either way it's not over.....no way
Willock is kinda pointless now and I'm concerned when we equalise that late on in that big of a game and Paal and most of um ain't going mad with relief, shows they ain't to bothered, onto the next one kinda stuff, get it over with, save game...log off. Do you know what I mean?
Not over yet though [Post edited 28 Jan 23:13]
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| We Live to Fight Again on 23:22 - Jan 28 with 1586 views | paulparker |
| We Live to Fight Again on 16:29 - Jan 28 by Antti_Heinola |
Admire your positivity Brian, but that was the most dispiriting performance of the season for me, at least since Marti came. There’s being rubbish, and then there’s just not turning up. Today we didn’t turn up. So slow. Awful passing. No pattern of play. Aimless hoofing. No one showing for the ball. Numerous anonymous performances, Willock the worst. And now we play the next two games with no midfield and a non league player at RB probably for a few weeks. Absolutely nothing positive about that today. Yeah fine, Smyth will replace Willock next week. Maybe Frey might get a goal or two. But we had our chance this month. 4 points from 4 winnable games. We’re going down.
Don’t really agree with people saying Hudd wanted it more - unless what they wanted was a dull draw - marginally, they wanted that more. Otherwise, i thought other than Rudoni and Thomas, they were as dreadful and as deserving of going down as we are. |
Agree with everything you just posted
This lot are down , we are the home team it was up to us to put them on the back foot but we played into their hands from the first whistle
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| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| We Live to Fight Again on 07:05 - Jan 29 with 1330 views | ellersliehoop |
| We Live to Fight Again on 16:16 - Jan 28 by numptydumpty |
Nonsense
Decent player.
Our best long shot of the game. Just missed.
According to 20 stone man next to me today, the entire reason we did badly was Willock being a fat lazy arse !!!
He did not play well but nor did anyone else.
At least we salvaged a draw, a loss would have been big time demoralising.
Two games undefeated !!! |
Dixon Bonner was woeful when he came on.
He offers nothing | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:07 - Jan 29 with 1326 views | ellersliehoop |
| We Live to Fight Again on 16:29 - Jan 28 by Antti_Heinola |
Admire your positivity Brian, but that was the most dispiriting performance of the season for me, at least since Marti came. There’s being rubbish, and then there’s just not turning up. Today we didn’t turn up. So slow. Awful passing. No pattern of play. Aimless hoofing. No one showing for the ball. Numerous anonymous performances, Willock the worst. And now we play the next two games with no midfield and a non league player at RB probably for a few weeks. Absolutely nothing positive about that today. Yeah fine, Smyth will replace Willock next week. Maybe Frey might get a goal or two. But we had our chance this month. 4 points from 4 winnable games. We’re going down.
Don’t really agree with people saying Hudd wanted it more - unless what they wanted was a dull draw - marginally, they wanted that more. Otherwise, i thought other than Rudoni and Thomas, they were as dreadful and as deserving of going down as we are. |
They did their homework on us. They closed us down and we then resorted to hoofing it | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:10 - Jan 29 with 1319 views | Watford_Ranger |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:05 - Jan 29 by ellersliehoop |
Dixon Bonner was woeful when he came on.
He offers nothing |
Probably had our one meaningful shot prior to the goal. Not much admittedly.
As with others he should really be playing regularly on loan. Think there’s something there but it’s nearly February and I’m not sure what his strengths are. Seems kind of ok at most things without really scoring, assisting or defending. An academy nice boy maybe. | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:15 - Jan 29 with 1312 views | Gus_iom |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:10 - Jan 29 by Watford_Ranger |
Probably had our one meaningful shot prior to the goal. Not much admittedly.
As with others he should really be playing regularly on loan. Think there’s something there but it’s nearly February and I’m not sure what his strengths are. Seems kind of ok at most things without really scoring, assisting or defending. An academy nice boy maybe. |
He's 23, I believe, and has made under 20 senior appearances. He should have been getting loan experience 5 years ago when at Liverpool | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:44 - Jan 29 with 1239 views | Watford_Ranger |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:15 - Jan 29 by Gus_iom |
He's 23, I believe, and has made under 20 senior appearances. He should have been getting loan experience 5 years ago when at Liverpool |
Agreed. It’s a major problem these guys at big clubs stay there well beyond there’s any chance they’ll make it at that level often on well beyond the money they’d get playing meaningful football and improving as players. I still think there’s something there with him but he’s got to improve pretty damn quickly if he’s going to be good enough to play consistently close to this league. | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:04 - Jan 29 with 1186 views | hubble |
| We Live to Fight Again on 07:44 - Jan 29 by Watford_Ranger |
Agreed. It’s a major problem these guys at big clubs stay there well beyond there’s any chance they’ll make it at that level often on well beyond the money they’d get playing meaningful football and improving as players. I still think there’s something there with him but he’s got to improve pretty damn quickly if he’s going to be good enough to play consistently close to this league. |
It's strange how differently we can view the same game. I thought EDB, along with Smyth, made a big difference when they came on. EDB always looks for the forward pass and together they raised the tempo of our game and things shifted in our favour. I rate EDB, and contrary to the other opinions expressed above, I think he should feature more, not less! |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 08:12 - Jan 29 with 1164 views | nix |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:04 - Jan 29 by hubble |
It's strange how differently we can view the same game. I thought EDB, along with Smyth, made a big difference when they came on. EDB always looks for the forward pass and together they raised the tempo of our game and things shifted in our favour. I rate EDB, and contrary to the other opinions expressed above, I think he should feature more, not less! |
I agree. We were being really pushed back and starting to drop too deep and then fouling them (many soft fouls given admittedly) or hoofing out for a corner. When they came on we were more on the front foot.
The problem is that we never know which Willock will show up. Willock at his almost best is much better than EDB currently is. But if we’d known tentative CW was going to show up I’d have started EDB every time. |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:19 - Jan 29 with 1146 views | dmm |
I assume EDB will deputise for Field in the Blackburn and Stoke games, though it's just possible Paal will with Larkeche at LB. I quite like EDB but think playing deeper doesn't suit his abilities too well. Needs must and all that. |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:53 - Jan 29 with 1081 views | hubble |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:12 - Jan 29 by nix |
I agree. We were being really pushed back and starting to drop too deep and then fouling them (many soft fouls given admittedly) or hoofing out for a corner. When they came on we were more on the front foot.
The problem is that we never know which Willock will show up. Willock at his almost best is much better than EDB currently is. But if we’d known tentative CW was going to show up I’d have started EDB every time. |
Well, yes Nix. Willock at his almost best is better than pretty much anyone in this division as an attacking midfielder.
But like you say, which Willock will turn up? Yesterday he looked lackadaisical. I don't know what it takes to motivate him, but I think he needs a break - which was why Marti dropped him for the Millwall game. Then Smyth got injured, so Willock played, and played well, maybe because being dropped made him feel like he had something to prove.
For all those reasons, I'd be tempted to start EDB. Look how he performed given his first start of the season under Marti v Rotherham. Reward him and I think a confident EDB is an excellent AM at this level. And by dropping Willock, he gets to recharge and come back stronger. Who'd be a manager, eh?!
With Field absent, that makes it even more likely he'll feature, and I think it's good that Field gets to recharge as well, because he's looked well off his game recently. | |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 09:54 - Jan 29 with 950 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| We Live to Fight Again on 08:53 - Jan 29 by hubble |
Well, yes Nix. Willock at his almost best is better than pretty much anyone in this division as an attacking midfielder.
But like you say, which Willock will turn up? Yesterday he looked lackadaisical. I don't know what it takes to motivate him, but I think he needs a break - which was why Marti dropped him for the Millwall game. Then Smyth got injured, so Willock played, and played well, maybe because being dropped made him feel like he had something to prove.
For all those reasons, I'd be tempted to start EDB. Look how he performed given his first start of the season under Marti v Rotherham. Reward him and I think a confident EDB is an excellent AM at this level. And by dropping Willock, he gets to recharge and come back stronger. Who'd be a manager, eh?!
With Field absent, that makes it even more likely he'll feature, and I think it's good that Field gets to recharge as well, because he's looked well off his game recently. |
Well EDB will have to cover for Field next few games: Willock has to be dropped in favour of Smyth.
Still no idea what EDB’s best role is as a midfielder: doesn’t seem too attack minded to me though he was one of the only QPR players to manage a half decent shot yesterday. He needs to step up and show what he can contribute for the next few games cos at the moment he seems to be a lively version of Dozzell. Thought he was poor yesterday and gave the ball away a lot. |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 10:13 - Jan 29 with 881 views | TheChef |
| We Live to Fight Again on 16:16 - Jan 28 by numptydumpty |
Nonsense
Decent player.
Our best long shot of the game. Just missed.
According to 20 stone man next to me today, the entire reason we did badly was Willock being a fat lazy arse !!!
He did not play well but nor did anyone else.
At least we salvaged a draw, a loss would have been big time demoralising.
Two games undefeated !!! |
Hoping that EDB starts for Field next weekend and enables the midfield to get on the front foot more.
Colback one yellow card away from a two match suspension... |  |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 10:19 - Jan 29 with 862 views | TheChef |
| We Live to Fight Again on 21:43 - Jan 28 by Bluce_Ree |
"Have to stay positive. Have to believe."
I don't have to do shit. I've got more reason to believe in the musical credibility of Milli Vanilli. |
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| We Live to Fight Again on 11:08 - Jan 29 with 799 views | Burnleyhoop |
| We Live to Fight Again on 15:49 - Jan 28 by QPRSteve |
What's our midfield for the next game?
Can we appeal the yellows on account for the ref being an utter &@£!! ? |
Agree. We didn't get into any sort of rhythm and nobody had a particularly good game, but the ref and his excessive use of yellow cards and constantly stopping the game absolutely ruined the whole spectacle. The Field yellow card was a disgraceful decision and could seriously cost us.
FWIW I thought the Udders were a far better side than Millwall. Closed us down well and plenty of energy and pace. The lad who scored the goal caused us problems all game.
We move on. Blackburn another big game and not a happy hunting ground. Big performance needed but the nerves are showing. | | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 11:36 - Jan 29 with 745 views | actonman |
We were void of ideas , slow , predictable , poor with decision making and couldn’t find our own arses with both hands all game never mind a team mate six or seven yards away!
I don’t get all the Huddersfield were better than us comments cos what I see of them , they had one plan and that was to convince the ref they where under threat to their lives anytime a qpr player actually tried to get to the ball and between them and the ref , strangled the fking life out of a game of football to try a nick a win and nearly succeeded !
We were sh!t , we will play better and probably worse but I cannot stress the importance of that equaliser by Paal !!
I can’t see the dogged determination or fight to stay up in this team as we just can’t win games and rarely catch a break or undeserved luck that you need but ….
We are still in it , mathematically at least |  | | |
| We Live to Fight Again on 12:41 - Jan 29 with 665 views | Antti_Heinola |
| We Live to Fight Again on 23:09 - Jan 28 by Midlands_Ranger |
We were shite but we still got a point.....yep it's still all to fight for.....but will we fight? Maybe we will...maybe we will get lucky...or maybe we will just go down....either way it's not over.....no way
Willock is kinda pointless now and I'm concerned when we equalise that late on in that big of a game and Paal and most of um ain't going mad with relief, shows they ain't to bothered, onto the next one kinda stuff, get it over with, save game...log off. Do you know what I mean?
Not over yet though [Post edited 28 Jan 23:13]
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Bit unfair: they were rushing back to the halfway line to try and get a winner rather than celebrating an equaliser! The opposite of 'not bothered' for me! | |
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