| Ronnie Edwards 14:58 - Jan 8 with 32265 views | aston_hoop |
Deal done so say WLS, 4.5 million quid. Big money, big big money (for us) |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 12:26 - Jan 9 with 4030 views | jeffranger50 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 10:51 - Jan 9 by terryb |
I'm not 100% sure, but I think he has to be registered with us by 12.00 (noon) today.
Let's remember though, that he made his debut for us at Leicester last season & was as poor as everyone else! |
Extra day to sign to play Sunday but wouldn’t if it was Saturday |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 13:10 - Jan 9 with 3648 views | BlackCrowe |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:26 - Jan 9 by jeffranger50 |
Extra day to sign to play Sunday but wouldn’t if it was Saturday |
Just heard on reasonably adequate authority that Ronnie went into the Saints dressing room this morning to say goodbye to the players. Dressed in a red traitors cloak. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 13:55 - Jan 9 with 3318 views | HammersmithR |
Deal for this is done. Was all finalised last night. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 14:04 - Jan 9 with 3216 views | baz_qpr |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:08 - Jan 9 by simmo |
Well this is a lovely signing, should it all go through as planned. I know our recent record of converting previously popular loan signings hasn't gone well, but I don't think this current management are as concerned with the popularity vote like Fernandes was, and are hopefully applying the same underlying metrics to this signing as any other (e.g. age, development / sell on potential, buying clubs preferred profiles, previous league experience, eyes you could collapse into, etc).
Not only is he a fine example of a modern defender, but he can play multiple defensive positions and gives us the equivalent of a right footed JCS, but with availability and still a lot to prove. Saints fans seem pissed that they're selling him, even if they haven't rated his performances as much, and we know he actively wants to be here which is a great start.
A few expectation temperers though, for my own benefit if nobody elses...
1) he will be coming in this time with incredibly high expectations as something of a white knight, rather than an under the radar loan signing to cover a position of need like last time
2) It doesn't solve the most pressing positional issues in the squad, and although it's early in the window you don't imagine we'll have anything like this kind of money available for other signings. Compare it to Boro who are likely signing Castledine for around 20% of this outlay, while we have little to no cover behind Madsen, and £5m could have been used across a GK, LB and CM...
3) the reported fee might represent amazing value, and if someone like Cov or Leicester were picking him up 6 months ago for anything close to that 5m ish we'd all be spitting about what an amazing and smart pick up it is, but it's still a LOT of money for QPR in a team that's spent very big (relatively speaking) in back to back seasons, following a decent summer spend. The accounts are going to be v interesting next year.
4) Less of an expectation checker and more wondering out loud, but what does this mean for the other CBs on the books?
Does it potentially block a seemingly good pipeline of younger talent? We signed 2 highly rated young CBs this summer, one of which - the South African - is getting lots of hype as a genuinely strong prospect. Clearly they're quite far from Championship standard right now, and Cook won't be here past the summer, but we also have Morrison who presumably drops to 5th choice CB in a team that only uses 2 a game... Are we officially giving up on JCS as a legitimate option? Do we expect to sell Dunne in the summer?
Anyway I'm rambling slightly, overall I am excited that a player that looked so good before (literally) is going to be back in a QPR shirt and be ours permanently. Seeing his name on the team sheet and looking resplendent in the hoops will make all reason fade away. Welcome back, handsome. [Post edited 9 Jan 12:49]
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I think JCS is a write off now, Cook gone in the summer and struggling at the moment. Mad Ben has nailed down right back. 18 months of Ronnie Beckenbauer before hopefully sold on for a healthy wedge gives enough time to try and get Smith and Akindeleni cooked nicely maybe with a league 1 loan. Ronnie can play anywhere across the back 4 or CDM If we had bought a RB and CB for similar money we would not be complaining so makes a lot of sense to me |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 14:30 - Jan 9 with 3062 views | BristolR |
| Ronnie Edwards on 14:04 - Jan 9 by baz_qpr |
I think JCS is a write off now, Cook gone in the summer and struggling at the moment. Mad Ben has nailed down right back. 18 months of Ronnie Beckenbauer before hopefully sold on for a healthy wedge gives enough time to try and get Smith and Akindeleni cooked nicely maybe with a league 1 loan. Ronnie can play anywhere across the back 4 or CDM If we had bought a RB and CB for similar money we would not be complaining so makes a lot of sense to me |
Good post, agree with all of that |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 14:57 - Jan 9 with 2833 views | daveB |
I do get where Simmo and others are coming from in that would the money be better spent in areas where we are weaker but I do think Edwards is someone who has potential to be a star for us, improves the team and can play in midfield if needed as we saw last season.
Our defensive record this season is pretty poor and we are really only a Cook injury away from Sam Field back at centre half. As long as we can afford it I'm all for us signing him. |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 15:03 - Jan 9 with 2768 views | kensalriser |
£4.5m is a big chunk for us but do we know if it's the initial fee or including add-ons?
But then, as someone else noted, we're in the bottom three for goals conceded. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 15:17 - Jan 9 with 2614 views | simmo |
| Ronnie Edwards on 14:04 - Jan 9 by baz_qpr |
I think JCS is a write off now, Cook gone in the summer and struggling at the moment. Mad Ben has nailed down right back. 18 months of Ronnie Beckenbauer before hopefully sold on for a healthy wedge gives enough time to try and get Smith and Akindeleni cooked nicely maybe with a league 1 loan. Ronnie can play anywhere across the back 4 or CDM If we had bought a RB and CB for similar money we would not be complaining so makes a lot of sense to me |
Broadly agree with all of that, although I wonder if this is a signing that will return a good profit. Aside from potential sell-ons, etc, a lot has to go really well for him to be worth much more than we've paid. Southampton are effectively breaking even after a few years that includes a hugely success loan signing, and I'm not sure teams were clambering for his signature.
He definitely has the potential, we've seen it first hand, and step out / ball playing CBs are a strong commodity for teams with money. If Millwall can get £10m for Tanganga as a good Championship CB, there's clearly a market there, so fingers crossed he kicks on, even if we don't! |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 15:30 - Jan 9 with 2519 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Ronnie Edwards on 15:17 - Jan 9 by simmo |
Broadly agree with all of that, although I wonder if this is a signing that will return a good profit. Aside from potential sell-ons, etc, a lot has to go really well for him to be worth much more than we've paid. Southampton are effectively breaking even after a few years that includes a hugely success loan signing, and I'm not sure teams were clambering for his signature.
He definitely has the potential, we've seen it first hand, and step out / ball playing CBs are a strong commodity for teams with money. If Millwall can get £10m for Tanganga as a good Championship CB, there's clearly a market there, so fingers crossed he kicks on, even if we don't! |
But if he’d played regularly and as well as he did for us this season and Southampton were where they should be be (challenging for automatic promotion) his value would be a lot more than we are paying and they would be easily doubling their money if they wanted to sell him. He’s had a poor half season and we are benefiting from that. |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 15:40 - Jan 9 with 2468 views | simmo |
| Ronnie Edwards on 15:30 - Jan 9 by Ned_Kennedys |
But if he’d played regularly and as well as he did for us this season and Southampton were where they should be be (challenging for automatic promotion) his value would be a lot more than we are paying and they would be easily doubling their money if they wanted to sell him. He’s had a poor half season and we are benefiting from that. |
That's definitely the hope! We do have a habit though of dragging players down to our level eventually, one way or another... It didn't happen for his loan spell and he looked like Bobby Moore and Ronaldo Koeman had a son.
12-18 months of anything like what we saw in his loan spell and it will be all good | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 15:51 - Jan 9 with 2382 views | rbee |
| Ronnie Edwards on 13:55 - Jan 9 by HammersmithR |
Deal for this is done. Was all finalised last night. |
Every now and again I keep refreshing the Offish and BBC transfer page, lol.
It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't announce it until after the Wet Spam game. |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 16:32 - Jan 9 with 2114 views | davman |
| Ronnie Edwards on 12:26 - Jan 9 by jeffranger50 |
Extra day to sign to play Sunday but wouldn’t if it was Saturday |
I think that it is irrelevant when the game is; the deadline is linked to the first game in the round, so I suspect it is 12 noon today. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 16:45 - Jan 9 with 1987 views | Northernr |
| Ronnie Edwards on 15:51 - Jan 9 by rbee |
Every now and again I keep refreshing the Offish and BBC transfer page, lol.
It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't announce it until after the Wet Spam game. |
Yeh handy to have in the back pocket in case we get pumped  |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 16:51 - Jan 9 with 1925 views | rbee |
Yup and also an excuse not to play him. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 16:59 - Jan 9 with 1832 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Ronnie Edwards on 16:45 - Jan 9 by Northernr |
Yeh handy to have in the back pocket in case we get pumped |
Or to have a recognisable name on the bench when 11 kids are starting. | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 17:03 - Jan 9 with 1792 views | simmo |
| Ronnie Edwards on 16:45 - Jan 9 by Northernr |
Yeh handy to have in the back pocket in case we get pumped |
Announce intent to sign to cover injury update, full sign to deal with West Ham loss, topless calendar for finishing another season 16th. | |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 17:14 - Jan 9 with 1679 views | Northernr |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:03 - Jan 9 by simmo |
Announce intent to sign to cover injury update, full sign to deal with West Ham loss, topless calendar for finishing another season 16th. |
Deal. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:22 - Jan 9 with 1595 views | TK1 |
Really hope it works. He was great on loan. But we're signing him two years too late at a million too much. It's one for the gallery on X.
Don't wanna be a party pooper, love watching players play well for QPR, but rather than buy Edwards in January for £4.5 million, Millwall bought Tristan Crama for less than a million from Brentford B last year and will be selling him - arguably the best, most versatile CB in the division now - for five times that at least in 18 months. Just as they did with Tanganga.
We used to be constantly outsmarted in the market by Brentford. Now we're constantly outsmarted in the market by Millwall. Two clubs who very quietly succeed with what QPR constantly tell the whole world they're going to do but rarely see through.
Drives me potty.
Anyway, sorry. Welcome Ronnie. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:22 - Jan 9 with 1595 views | TwoHalves |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:02 - Jan 8 by kingsburyR |
He is a good looking bastard with great hair. What can go wrong? |
Might be too sexy for our shirt. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:42 - Jan 9 with 1431 views | CateLeBonR |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:22 - Jan 9 by TK1 |
Really hope it works. He was great on loan. But we're signing him two years too late at a million too much. It's one for the gallery on X.
Don't wanna be a party pooper, love watching players play well for QPR, but rather than buy Edwards in January for £4.5 million, Millwall bought Tristan Crama for less than a million from Brentford B last year and will be selling him - arguably the best, most versatile CB in the division now - for five times that at least in 18 months. Just as they did with Tanganga.
We used to be constantly outsmarted in the market by Brentford. Now we're constantly outsmarted in the market by Millwall. Two clubs who very quietly succeed with what QPR constantly tell the whole world they're going to do but rarely see through.
Drives me potty.
Anyway, sorry. Welcome Ronnie. |
Whilst I do agree. Who's to say we don't make 5 times (or more) for what we paid for some of our other signings? Ideally we'd have bought Ronnie for £3m from Peterborough but it wasn't possible back then. I think this is a very good signing for a player who has the potential to be our next maverick. We like a maverick here don't we? [Post edited 9 Jan 17:44]
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| Ronnie Edwards on 18:20 - Jan 9 with 1155 views | Jevlar |
Come on powers that be
ANNOUNCE RONNIE!! |  | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 18:21 - Jan 9 with 1147 views | JamesB1979 |
As Steve or Andy said on Clive’s podcast, a good signing this window is one that isn’t a panic buy / loan for next 6 months but one for this season and beyond. That’s exactly what Ronnie is. At 22, he’ll be our starting centre back alongside Dunne for the foreseeable future. | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 18:39 - Jan 9 with 1033 views | TK1 |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:42 - Jan 9 by CateLeBonR |
Whilst I do agree. Who's to say we don't make 5 times (or more) for what we paid for some of our other signings? Ideally we'd have bought Ronnie for £3m from Peterborough but it wasn't possible back then. I think this is a very good signing for a player who has the potential to be our next maverick. We like a maverick here don't we? [Post edited 9 Jan 17:44]
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Who's to say? The market will say, so let's see. Burrell the only signing who could go for five times and a brilliant example of who we should sign, ie someone I've never heard of signed from a lower level for not very much money. Mbengue and Madsen could go possibly for twice or three times as much. Anyone else?
Re Edwards, if he'd been great on loan at Preston instead of QPR last season but hadn't even been making the bench for Southampton this, we'd be up in arms at spunking £4.5 million on him in January. It's a PR signing. Feel the same about Saito. It's not what we're meant to be doing.
But I am excited about seeing him play for us and it's not my money. So who cares really? | | | |
| Ronnie Edwards on 18:52 - Jan 9 with 916 views | Metallica_Hoop |
I hope we do, would be a good signing with huge sell-on value.
Cook can help develop him too. |  |
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| Ronnie Edwards on 18:56 - Jan 9 with 870 views | hantssi |
| Ronnie Edwards on 17:42 - Jan 9 by CateLeBonR |
Whilst I do agree. Who's to say we don't make 5 times (or more) for what we paid for some of our other signings? Ideally we'd have bought Ronnie for £3m from Peterborough but it wasn't possible back then. I think this is a very good signing for a player who has the potential to be our next maverick. We like a maverick here don't we? [Post edited 9 Jan 17:44]
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Ideally we’d have bought him from Barnet! | | | |
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